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Old 05-01-2010, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PiperPower View Post
How involved will Tilton be post-merger? In this article it says he will be a
non-executive CEO for two years, and Smisek will be the CEO. How active is a non-executive CEO
I think they meant to say non-executive chairman of the board of directors.
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Old 05-01-2010, 05:02 AM
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Maybe, all I now is I cant get a vacation drop (due to no coverage)every time I asked for it the last few months.

IMHO I think MEC's will get a no furlough agreement short term and retirements will take care of that possibility in long term.

going to United's work rules and a buyout will accomplish alot.
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Old 05-01-2010, 05:11 AM
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Maybe, all I now is I cant get a vacation drop (due to no coverage)every time I asked for it the last few months.

IMHO I think MEC's will get a no furlough agreement short term and retirements will take care of that possibility in long term.
Exactly. If the MECs get a 3 year no furlough(really 2.5) agreement, age 65 retirements will kick in Dec '12.
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Old 05-01-2010, 06:32 AM
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You all realize approx 1500 pilots retire at the combined airline in the next 5 years, it will take 2-3 to put a combined list together and start flying together best case. I will not be surprised to see hiring well before 5 years.
At Delta we had a list in about 3 months, and were flying together in 1 yr and 5 months after date of closing on the deal. What prevented furlough here was our 8 billion fleet types.
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Old 05-01-2010, 06:57 AM
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Don't think so. I think furloughs were avoided by the efforts of one man who convinced Richard Anderson that furloughs would have a negative financial impact that didn't show up on a spreadsheet.

UAL/CAL will be successful only if their pilot leaders stay focused on a long term view, and ignore the whining from the pilots who will be angry at the way things are going - only because they're angry regardless of how things are going.
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Old 05-01-2010, 02:23 PM
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Its soooooooooooo obvious; with United's 200 widebodies on property, plus an order for 25 787's with options for an additional 50 787's and Continental's 100 widebodies and all their new 737s, we will not only take over the world but a new bid is opening for the Mars sub-orbit route.

With sub-market wages, the combined entity will make enough profit to pay for national health-care.

Back on topic....

With no route overlap, the industry will not be able to compete. It will once again remind me of when I got hired at United in 1999 with Captain bids going to guys with 3 years on property

Really? Well I guess we all ought to head for the circuit court and get our BK papers in early.
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Old 05-01-2010, 03:03 PM
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What would this whole thing mean for regionals that fly for them?
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Old 05-01-2010, 03:37 PM
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What would this whole thing mean for regionals that fly for them?
Not 100% sure, but I've added 10,000 shares of XJT to the 401(k) holdings.
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Old 05-01-2010, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Splash View Post
Don't think so. I think furloughs were avoided by the efforts of one man who convinced Richard Anderson that furloughs would have a negative financial impact that didn't show up on a spreadsheet.

UAL/CAL will be successful only if their pilot leaders stay focused on a long term view, and ignore the whining from the pilots who will be angry at the way things are going - only because they're angry regardless of how things are going.
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I agree with the single man theory and as he heads back to the line, the combined DAL list needs to make sure he never buys another beer or dinner on a layover.
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Old 05-01-2010, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain Bligh View Post
Not 100% sure, but I've added 10,000 shares of XJT to the 401(k) holdings.

Yep...I am right there too.
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