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Old 10-25-2014, 05:49 PM
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deputy plug.
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Old 10-26-2014, 09:22 PM
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I've heard that a new hire could get Seattle or LAX within a year at the current rate of hiring... Is that true or just crazy talk? Thanks in advance for all the info.
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Old 10-27-2014, 03:46 AM
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I haven't seen any SEA awards, but there have been LAX awards. I think some of them as little as 3 months on the property. But don't quote that.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:04 AM
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Thanks for the info!
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:35 AM
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I've heard that a new hire could get Seattle or LAX within a year at the current rate of hiring... Is that true or just crazy talk? Thanks in advance for all the info.

Yes that can definitely happen.

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Old 10-27-2014, 07:18 AM
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Yes that can definitely happen.

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I'm pretty interested in a move to SEA. Under what circumstances do you think a new hire could get there in under a year?
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:23 AM
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I'm pretty interested in a move to SEA. Under what circumstances do you think a new hire could get there in under a year?
Fat chance.....................don't expect that. Even if it happened, I doubt it would last. Just giving you the cold hard facts.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:03 AM
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Here goes. I used November's list and a notional seniority of approximately 11,500 - where a pilot could be in about a year, maybe less, in the current hiring scene - and rounded the numbers. Here they are, from most junior to most senior.

NYC 717: #2/30 (based on AE - category isn't active for November)
NYC 320: 40/100 - 40%
ATL 717: 130/250 - 52%
NYC M88: 60/100 - 60%
DTW 717: 40/60 - 67%
NYC 73N: 80/120 - 67%
DTW 73N: 60/85 - 71%
ATL 320: 90/120 - 75%
ATL M88: 480/610 - 79%
CVG M88: 50/60 - 83%
DTW 7ER: 150/170 - 88%
DTW 320: 160/180 - 89%
ATL 73N: 260/280 - 93%
ATL 7ER: 530/560 - 95%
NYC 7ER: 350/360 - 98%

The following categories don't have anyone at this seniority level yet, but I believe some <1yr pilots were awarded them in the past couple AEs. Obviously, those pilots will be the plug or the deputy plug.

CVG 73N
LAX 73N
MSP 320
MSP M88
SLC 73N
SLC 320

Moral of the story is no surprise: If you want to be high-seniority, choose a 717 or something out of NYC.

Corollary to the moral: If you want to fly international, but from reserve for quite a while, pick the 7ER.
Thats a great breakdown. Im just south of the 11500 and my class only had NYC 88/320 ATL 717. I have about 2 months to go till off probation.

For the new guys with the one year seat lock things will change by the time you can bid another airplane. Bid what you think will give you the best QOL but be cautious because current #'s can change
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:30 AM
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Fat chance.....................don't expect that. Even if it happened, I doubt it would last. Just giving you the cold hard facts.
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What's the overall story with MSP? Is it possible to get it quickly as a new hire? Is it a big commuter base or do most live there? Mostly ex-NWA guys? Is it looking stable post-merger or are there indications it go away/substantially shrink?

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Old 10-27-2014, 08:39 AM
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I'm pretty interested in a move to SEA. Under what circumstances do you think a new hire could get there in under a year?



SEA will take longer than LAX but around 1 year is probably possible. Right now the plug on the SEA 7ER B for the three posted spring 2015 category list vary between a 11,0XX seniority and a 11, 1XX seniority number.

So with about 12,000 pilots and hiring 1000/year you are already looking at about 1 year. The good news is that as hiring continues at the current pace the time will come down even more.

SEA is unique in that it currently has no NB categories which obviously does not help new hires get there quickly. If a NB base were to open in SEA these times would come down even more.

LAX already has both 737 and 7ER Pilots assigned with seniority numbers above 12,000.

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