Delta Pilots Association
#4751
Carl
#4752
Capt, SCA A-320
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: A-320 Left
Posts: 10
Not sure if this is the right place to post, but does anyone know (At Delta) a Capt Jerry McMillian?? Not sure if he has retired yet or not. He is an old Western guy based in Utah last I knew. PM if you might have any info. Thanks in advance!
#4753
Despite our LBO and merger with Republic, we all UNIFIED and struck the airline to get what we knew was right. 100% unity that is.
Carl
#4754
ALPA.
Delta, United got their contracts slaughtered being represented by whom? IPA didn't get slaughtered after who?
Not true. You need to stop just looking at pay rates. It's pay rates and work rules that determine how much your W-2 will show for how many days you work. SWA was very close to us and exceeded us in some cases well before BK.
They also never negotiated Scope giveaways and complete collapses. They never celebrated the collapse of an airline on the cover of their magazine. And they never tried to bust a union.
So is everything I've written above.
Carl
Delta, United got their contracts slaughtered being represented by whom? IPA didn't get slaughtered after who?
They also never negotiated Scope giveaways and complete collapses. They never celebrated the collapse of an airline on the cover of their magazine. And they never tried to bust a union.
So is everything I've written above.
Carl
#4756
What influence would you be talking about?
The influence to prevent Grand Theft Pension?
The influence to prevent bastardization of the 1,500 hour rule?
The influence to prevent age 65?
The influence to make Crew Pass appear?
The influence to prevent wholesale outsourcing of our careers at ALL levels?
It should be noted that the whole recent screening mess fix AND the FFDO process was only started after OTHER groups got the ball rolling. And other groups sure managed to steamroll the age 65 thing under the radar and in record time.
Heck, we can't even write contract language that prevented the outsourcing of MORE RJs, and we had to do a quickie, one-man grievance settlement.
As far as producing "overall" better contracts, I would disagree. Sure the pay rates were higher, but I will disagree on the rest. From position bidding, to outsourced instructors (bye bye 350+ pilot jobs with that, BTW) to hours of service protections, I'd have to say "er, not so much".
Nu
The influence to prevent Grand Theft Pension?
The influence to prevent bastardization of the 1,500 hour rule?
The influence to prevent age 65?
The influence to make Crew Pass appear?
The influence to prevent wholesale outsourcing of our careers at ALL levels?
It should be noted that the whole recent screening mess fix AND the FFDO process was only started after OTHER groups got the ball rolling. And other groups sure managed to steamroll the age 65 thing under the radar and in record time.
Heck, we can't even write contract language that prevented the outsourcing of MORE RJs, and we had to do a quickie, one-man grievance settlement.
As far as producing "overall" better contracts, I would disagree. Sure the pay rates were higher, but I will disagree on the rest. From position bidding, to outsourced instructors (bye bye 350+ pilot jobs with that, BTW) to hours of service protections, I'd have to say "er, not so much".
Nu
Carl
#4757
No pilot did - that's called unity. As far as other employee groups, we issued a statement that we did NOT want any other employee group to honor our picket line and put their jobs in jeopardy. I think we handled that strike about as good as any strike anywhere.
Carl
#4758
You're absolutely right...it's DPA's fault. They haven't been nearly aggressive enough in getting the word out. It's amazing to me that they've gotten 2000 cards from a website that is not being advertised.
Carl
Carl
#4760
I mean if we voted every year or even every 2-3 years of halfway between the contract? A vote of confidence or no-confidence?
Seems harmless to me, only 1900 pilots of 12,000 would vote them out right? So there is nothing for ALPA to fear and the idea of the DPA would be washed aside. It's a win win.
Right?
Seems harmless to me, only 1900 pilots of 12,000 would vote them out right? So there is nothing for ALPA to fear and the idea of the DPA would be washed aside. It's a win win.
Right?
Right!!
Carl
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