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Old 09-20-2010, 07:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for posting. I had no idea a movement had already started.

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Old 09-20-2010, 08:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The same talk has been going on at United. You can't have the same union representing the pilots of the mainline and regionals, there interest are diometrically opposed. I think this will eventually be the demise of ALPA.
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Or it will just morph into an even looser federation type of superstructure. While that may technically solve some of the catch 22 issues, it will create more problems and likely amplify an era of predatory pattern bargaining. Yet if ALPA is strengthened, the inherent catch 22 is unavoidable (i.e. it's MY right to fly YOUR 777 and OUR union and YOUR scope clause shouldn't be allowed to stop me insanity, etc).
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ALPA is on their way to becoming an RJ only union. They really let the members down over the last three years. IMHO their only chance of survival as a mainline union is by proper handling of the newly proposed rest rules. So far they are off to a bad start.
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The same talk has been going on at United. You can't have the same union representing the pilots of the mainline and regionals, there interest are diometrically opposed. I think this will eventually be the demise of ALPA.
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Old 09-20-2010, 08:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ALPA is on their way to becoming an RJ only union. They really let the members down over the last three years. IMHO their only chance of survival as a mainline union is by proper handling of the newly proposed rest rules. So far they are off to a bad start.
Exactly, Lee Moak wants to be national president-let him-as the only Delta pilot. Whoever started this, thank you. My card is on the way!!!

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Old 09-20-2010, 08:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I see that there is a ongoing effort to form a New Pilot Union at DELTA..

I can't say I'm surprised, alot of Members have not been happy with ALPA the last few years....


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Old 09-20-2010, 08:47 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Bad idea IMO. Keep your friends close and enemies closer. Despite some tangled representational interests were we to toss the feeders to their devices to get representation I think you would end up with a whole lot more pilots a lot more vocal about flying bigger aircraft with no Scope conflict of interests in doing so with their former ALPA brothers. Worse yet you might end up with ALPA as the final arbiter for a lot of RJ carriers going against your one off in-house. While perhaps pie in the sky I think the solution lies in working within ALPA at raising the wage and cost gap (in the RJ favor) to make eventual integration with their mainline partners feasible. While perhaps well meaning splitting ALPA plays directly into managements hands.
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Exactly, Lee Moak wants to be national president-let him-as the only Delta pilot. Whoever started this, thank you. My card is on the way!!!
Yup. Mine's already there.

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