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Old 11-24-2010, 07:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default iPads for Alaska Pilots Coming Soon

In mid-December, we will start an iPad test period with 100 pilots. The pilots for the iPad test have been selected and contacted. During that test period we will be evaluating the iPad configuration, pilot bulletin and training materials. Assuming all goes well, we hope to provide iPads to all pilots in February. At that time, we will start an FAA required "parallel process" in which we must fly with both iPads and paper manuals. This could last up to 6 months, but may be shorter. At the end of the parallel process, we plan to start Jeppesen Airside Service (sometimes referred to as ship sets). Once the iPads and Airside are in place, the company will provide a significantly smaller flight bag for the reduced load.
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Old 11-24-2010, 07:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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thats awesome, but why not just have the jepp view on for the ipad instead of ship sets?
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Old 11-24-2010, 07:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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They told us in new-hire indoc here at Alaska Airlines to never ever ask "why" questions.
So, no "why" questions please.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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thats awesome, but why not just have the jepp view on for the ipad instead of ship sets?
As I understand it, the iPad is not tso'd - its basically a PED - so, no use below 10k. It doesn't meet the requirements to be a true EFB.
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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As I understand it, the iPad is not tso'd - its basically a PED - so, no use below 10k. It doesn't meet the requirements to be a true EFB.

Cause I'm sure someone would figure out how to put porn on it.
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The iPad is currently undergoing EMI and decompression testing which is hoped to be completed by years end. The completion of these test phases will get the iPad placed on the FAA list of "approved" EFB devices. This information comes from vendors at NBAA who have a stake in it's development.
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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One answer is that Apple doesn't allow the iPad to be used for aircraft navigation:

7.5 YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE iPAD SOFTWARE AND SERVICES ARE NOT INTENDED OR SUITABLE FOR USE IN SITUATIONS OR ENVIRONMENTS WHERE THE FAILURE OR TIME DELAYS OF, OR ERRORS OR INACCURACIES IN, THE CONTENT, DATA OR INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE iPAD SOFTWARE OR SERVICES COULD LEAD TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION OR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL, LIFE SUPPORT OR WEAPONS SYSTEMS.

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Old 11-25-2010, 03:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Secret porn detecting software is included. Any found pictures & videos will be immediately emailed to the chief pilot's office, with date, time, lat-long, altitude & employee number.

A weekly contest winner for most original porn will get a paid trip drop. Pictures/videos of Eskimos and large animals are expressly forbidden.

In other news, CP applications are pouring in.....
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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One answer is that Apple doesn't allow the iPad to be used for aircraft navigation:

7.5 YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE iPAD SOFTWARE AND SERVICES ARE NOT INTENDED OR SUITABLE FOR USE IN SITUATIONS OR ENVIRONMENTS WHERE THE FAILURE OR TIME DELAYS OF, OR ERRORS OR INACCURACIES IN, THE CONTENT, DATA OR INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE iPAD SOFTWARE OR SERVICES COULD LEAD TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION THE OPERATION OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION OR COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL, LIFE SUPPORT OR WEAPONS SYSTEMS.

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Using it for navigation and using it for charts are two different things. I fly part 91 contract right now and use jepps in PDF form. (no different then using a paper chart). But there are programs that incorporate the gps and actually act as a moving map, also I believe some even have a small six pack of interments that will come up one could use.
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I ran into a couple of Jepp/San guys in BOG of all places. They were only too excited to show me the iPad with the plates on it. Pretty slick. When I asked when it would be certified, they said soon. All parties involved are interested in moving this forward. He seemed to think it would be next year. Its all "process" now.

In light of the "disclaimer" quoted above, Apple will surely charge a premium for an "FAA certified" iPad (flyPad) that will lift that restriction.
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