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12-22-2010, 10:41 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
A 10% return is steep for AA. You've got to figure there are TWA guys that haven't flown in 10 years. That's a lost decade. You've got to have started another career. How many of the 1,000+ are at Delta, UPS, FedEx, JetBlue. Who's going back?
12-23-2010, 07:06 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by Oldfreightdawg
My guess is somewhere around 500 to 600 of the remaining 1173 will eventually return. The more senior TWA furloughees are closer to a captain bid than anyone else on furlough because they are protected in STL, as the TWA captains retire over the next 10 years, the only pilots entitled to those jobs are former TWA pilots, a lot of whom are on furlough.
12-23-2010, 09:03 PM
#13
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Originally Posted by AceOnTheRiver
I seriously doubt STL will stay open as a base.
Remember---TWA pilots who were 'integrated'into AA, didn't approve/disapprove or have any comment on the content or provisions of terms and conditions of Supplement CC to the APA CBA. It was crammed down our throat with no input or feedback from our group whatsoever.
APA (with ALPA's help and tacit approval) crafted all of Supp CC, and you'll just have to live with it.
12-24-2010, 02:15 AM
#14
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Originally Posted by B757200ER
I have no problem with that, as long as my system seniority number changes to reflect my original TWA DOH.
Remember---TWA pilots who were 'integrated'into AA, didn't approve/disapprove or have any comment on the content or provisions of terms and conditions of Supplement CC to the APA CBA. It was crammed down our throat with no input or feedback from our group whatsoever.
APA (with ALPA's help and tacit approval) crafted all of Supp CC, and you'll just have to live with it.
Remember---TWA pilots who were 'integrated'into AA, didn't approve/disapprove or have any comment on the content or provisions of terms and conditions of Supplement CC to the APA CBA. It was crammed down our throat with no input or feedback from our group whatsoever.
APA (with ALPA's help and tacit approval) crafted all of Supp CC, and you'll just have to live with it.
Did TWA not have protections in their contract to insure a fair integration? Did they waive those protections voluntarily to entice AMR to buy them?
12-24-2010, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Did TWA not have protections in their contract to insure a fair integration? Did they waive those protections voluntarily to entice AMR to buy them?
12-24-2010, 07:51 AM
#17
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Originally Posted by Oldfreightdawg
............ However, they have reached the point in the recall where 180 AE pilots will be next (they must flow up per arbitration decision), that will take us through summer. ............
12-24-2010, 08:04 AM
#18
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Originally Posted by Oldfreightdawg
My guess is somewhere around 500 to 600 of the remaining 1173 will eventually return. The more senior TWA furloughees are closer to a captain bid than anyone else on furlough because they are protected in STL, as the TWA captains retire over the next 10 years, the only pilots entitled to those jobs are former TWA pilots, a lot of whom are on furlough.
Do you honestly think a TW guy that lost his job back in 2000 has sat at home doing absolutely nothing the last decade? Plenty of the TW guys got a job elsewhere. I had the privilege of flying with several of them when I was a check airman. Trust me, they are doing just fine at another airline.
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12-24-2010, 08:08 AM
#19
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Approximately 1 of every 3 recalls are returning, the rest are deferring. Some will defer until they have more seniority, some will take the recall and go on a MLOA, some will defer as a "back up" plan to their current situation. Once they reach the end of the list the 3 year deferral clock starts (probably early 2012).
12-24-2010, 08:30 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by buddies8
No ALPA enticed. With lies, to give up there protection.
Drifter---without a doubt. No new-hire off street for a long time.
No growth, no attrition----no hiring!
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