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Old 01-25-2013, 07:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Will the US Air MOU pass?

I read the the MOU and while it may not be the greatest thing in the world it has enough in it for me to vote yes.
Additionally, I understand that whether the pilots vote this MOU in or not the merger will happen and the items included will be our contract in the near future. We will just miss out on the "signing bonus" and retro pay back to February 08 from the effective date.
I'm now amazed at the number of US Air pilots who are voting no "just because".
From no real reason to the absurd assumptions, pilots are voting no.
No road show and no investigation into the document, just no.
I have real reservations now whether this MOU will pass.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why does the east shortsightedness and ineptness surprise you? They don't just hand out permanent injunctions to just anyone you know.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think is all talk to please your buds. When your sitting I front of that computer knowing the financial benefits coming to you if this thing passes and you only have 10 years to go, your vote will change pretty quick. I had one guy tell me if he didn't get a 100k bonus he was going to vote NO, come on let's be realistic.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If you believe crew room gossip and internet forum chatter, then no MOU or TA will ever pass.

To recap, for example:
The Delta TA was never going to pass.
The AA TA was going to be voted down by a huge margin.
There's no way the UA/CO TA was ever going to be voted in.
The Pinnacle TA was going to fail miserably.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I see it passing with at least 75% total from both sides.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Agreed. My bet is that the yes vote is around 80%
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Could someone explain this MOU in a little more detail? Is this the same as a TA on a new contract? Would this unify east and west? How does this fit with the merger and a unified AA/US pilot group? If this is like a a TA, is it at all similar to what United just signed? Sorry for the basic questions but its all a little confusing from the outside!
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Apparently there is a significant vote "no" campaign by the beasties, they believe they will get a bigger raise because coc might be triggered if they vote this down.
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Why does the east shortsightedness and ineptness surprise you? They don't just hand out permanent injunctions to just anyone you know.
The one guy I've personally talked to that is voting no is a west guy. You and cacti really need some therapy.
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The one guy I've personally talked to that is voting no is a west guy. You and cacti really need some therapy.
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