Southwest hiring info
#11
I admit, I'm not very smart on this stuff, but just by going by APC Quick Take, 15 year FO at Southwest is making $151 an hour, probably gets his pick of flights, probably has a home near Dallas and all the other perks of being at Southwest.
Why would he go to United, for example, to start at year 1 pay, sit reserve and have to commute?
Why would he go to United, for example, to start at year 1 pay, sit reserve and have to commute?
In six or seven years years from now, they'll be a senior wide-body FO at a Legacy, versus a mid-level 737FO at SWA flying a wheezing -300 from El Paso to Tulsa.
#12
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: CA
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I'm a mid level F.O. And I'm not going anywhere. I guess it is all what you are looking for. I would love some day to fly a widebody except I just don't care for the mission. Long haul missions with lots of back side of the clock flying just doesn't interest me. I hear people brag about their 30 hour Paris layover and I am glad they are enjoying it but for me I would much rather spend that down time at home with my family. I will take my 17 or 18 hour El Paso layover any time because I know it will allow me 18-19 days at home which is what truly makes me happy while at work.
#13
I'm a mid level F.O. And I'm not going anywhere. I guess it is all what you are looking for. I would love some day to fly a widebody except I just don't care for the mission. Long haul missions with lots of back side of the clock flying just doesn't interest me. I hear people brag about their 30 hour Paris layover and I am glad they are enjoying it but for me I would much rather spend that down time at home with my family. I will take my 17 or 18 hour El Paso layover any time because I know it will allow me 18-19 days at home which is what truly makes me happy while at work.
I have several friends on the 747 that have 21 days off per month. When you take vacation and sick calls in to account, many work about 6 days per month on average.
Like you, I prefer domestic flying.
#14
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 662
Tough choice. I honestly wouldn't know which way to advise a young buck lucky enough to have offers from each.
#15
As a MIL guy on the outside getting ready to retire and go to the airlines in a few years, it seems that SWA having little turn over and the legacy airlines expecting lots of turn over, shows more that guys aren't leaving SWA because they like the QOL. Is that accurate or is there more to the SWA vs. everyone else story?
#17
Regardless of what the doom and gloomers post here, that is not true about Delta. Yes, there are areas of concern with regards codesharing and JVs, but overall the RJ fleet has shrunk and mainline has grown, albeit the NB fleet. WB growth would be better, but in this context, SWA vs Delta, since career expectation at SWA is a NB captain, isn't it apples to apples?
#19
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Regardless of what the doom and gloomers post here, that is not true about Delta. Yes, there are areas of concern with regards codesharing and JVs, but overall the RJ fleet has shrunk and mainline has grown, albeit the NB fleet. WB growth would be better, but in this context, SWA vs Delta, since career expectation at SWA is a NB captain, isn't it apples to apples?
Which leads to a third consideration: growth opportunities. The Big 3, through their own fleets and their many codesharing partners, already pretty much fly from everywhere to everywhere else. Where SWA is just starting to break out of the lower 48. It's a big untapped world out there and unless there is a major cave on scope from SWAPA, it will all be flown by SWAPA pilots
#20
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Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 61
Call me crazy, but I predict significant growth by SWA in not only "near" international, but long-haul markets. At a recent message to the field Gary said our goal was to be "the world's favorite airline". Once the AirTran thing settles out, near-international becomes the norm and the 737Max is on board, I see us buying a wide body airplane and going far...5-10 year horizon.
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