MudhenBuckeye

If it gives anyone here hope, I was emailed for an interview with 2250TT, 2.8 undergrad GPA, 2 speeding tickets, a few rec letters, military IP/EP time. This was after 2 fix it emails last week for my app missing a few things. My lesson learned - if you want the job, keep prepping even if you think its a long shot for an interview. You never know.

ghilis101

congrats! sounds like theyre really ramping up with the interview invites, this is great news!

gloopy

I think the app specifies convert to a 4.0 scale. If it doesn't, I'd do it anyway and then include both in the comments.

For the tickets, put them all down. You may think they don't know and can't find out, but is the reward of them not knowing about a ticket a couple decades ago that they will not care about in the first place greater than the automatic guarantee of being pulled out of class and fired if they somehow do find out about it really worth it on the risk:reward scale?

Besides, and its amazing how many people don't completely get this, they will find negatives for you and you will have to resolve them. If you come to them perfect, they will then find something on their terms. Its far better to be honest and own up to your mistakes that you knew about all along and then explain them on your terms.

They love love love love honesty. Even more so than someone who didn't get any tickets in their 20's.

gloopy

Its not rediculous at all. Its part of who you were and who you are. It helps tell your story of how you got to this moment and helps fill out your trend vector. Just because they use it and give some amount of impossible for us to know credit to those with higher grades doesn't mean they only take straight A students. DL has in all hiring cycles hired plenty of two point something averages from school.

But if you barely graduated high school…and you barely graduated college…and you haven't been doing much of anything outside of showing up and flying the line, then there's a good chance you'll probably have to wait until a few thousand others are hired before you.

Likewise, if you're a 4.0 goody two shoes brainiac who rescued a bus full of kittens on the way to the interview, you still have to pass the Jedi trials before the Council agrees to train you.

Capice?

Sink r8

In the process of getting down to the bottom, assuming you're right, they'll be ranking people. Maybe at some point they run out of people that have done it and can learn it. I think they're going to want to hire people that at least proved they can learn it. All things being equal, they'll pick people with a better record of learning over people who have a poor record of learning.

Sounds fair to me.

T45Heinous

2.8 GPA in college, about 6ish speeding tickets..none in the last 7 years, got an interview.
I have a military IP background with tactical jet and multi-time and a handful of internal recs. I think that if you are a "tweener" on the hours the other stuff (GPA, speeding tickets, etc) comes more into play, but if you have demonstrated experience and people willing to back you, you should be GTG.
Just apply everywhere and keep updating your app at least every couple of months, and keep you fingers crossed for the call. You can't change your past so don't sweat the tickets/GPA!!
Good Luck Everyone!

Flying Elvis

I put them ALL down, including a few I figure aren't on anyone's radar anymore... I had a lot as a young un. Put best guess on dates and locations. Fewer as I grew up. But lots. Most recent was 3 years ago. Nothing obscene, but around 10ish moving violations, most speeding. Got asked about them when we got to that part of app review.

Flying Elvis

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ghilis101

Good call. Based on my jetblue background check, my driving record came back clean (thanks jetblue ). I still listed my tickets anyway (I remembered one more at the interview and wrote it in, initially when I applied I thought they just wanted a 10 yr look back). Perhaps deltas background check is a little more thorough since they use a different company, but either way honesty means no unexpected surprises later.

Hercguy

Have any classes finished (or started for that matter) since the recent hiring wave? What are new hires getting? I don't currently have a dog in the fight, just curious.