Jetblue "3A" decision.
06-01-2013, 05:22 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba
Ahh, the "ANTI" types. Your conspiracy theories revealed. BlueDriver, Benzobait is a lost cause. He's turned - zombie style. BD I too believe there is no conspiracy, and I too look toward the "truth mills" not rumor for appropriate information.
-Bubs
-Bubs
If you signed up for 3A you believed management violated 3A. If you didnt sign 3A you believed management. When you are a little less wet behind the ears come back and post.
We all enjoy how a noob knows everything.
06-01-2013, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
Not exactly. The claim never applied to 190 FO's as the suit was based of their pay. Of roughly 1400 eligible pilots almost 1000 signed on. Those that did not were mostly pro-management types.
As far as sticking together there isn't much 3A pilots can do. The company lost, made it clear to the arbitrator they would not make the remaining pilots whole. This pilot group has been divided long before 3A. I suppose we will all see what the airlines response is in the coming weeks.
As far as sticking together there isn't much 3A pilots can do. The company lost, made it clear to the arbitrator they would not make the remaining pilots whole. This pilot group has been divided long before 3A. I suppose we will all see what the airlines response is in the coming weeks.
06-02-2013, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by V1rotateV2
As an outsider reading this thread---PEA, got it!
What's PST? PVC? PAR?
Thanks!
What's PST? PVC? PAR?
Thanks!
PST and PAR are acronyms for negotiating committees which report back to management or the airlines management.
06-02-2013, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by amcflyboy
A student council whom a few hundred grown men and women seem to believe that they are 100 times better than a CBA. 
My student council comment is in regards to the power of the committees, not the tireless effort of the individuals serving.
06-17-2013, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Climbto450
I am hearing somewhere around 50 million as a result of only the 2007 claims, it would have been in the neighborhood of 300 million if the 2009 claims where allowed. I wonder if this will have an affect on the compensation review?
$30-$50 million would be the answer if they had settled back in 2009 when 3A was first submitted (200-250 pilots). However, with nearly 1000 pilots (2/3rds of them Captains) the number is much much bigger. Even if you apply the smallest possible interpertiation you get closer to $80-100 million in back pay. If you take a more agressive interpretation of 3A you get upwards of $120-180 million. That doesn't even include any potential penalty.
We will see in the next few weeks, but it will be a big number any way you look at it. Plus, Neeleman lost his job for just a $40 million mistake. Barger, RM and Hnat all should lose their jobs on this one as this was INTENTIONAL on thier part.
Just my opinion......
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06-17-2013, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by benzoate
The airline and the legal firm have to agree on a forensic accountant to come in and make that determination. There is quite a bit of work to do. It's not just retro pay but also medial leaves, disability payments 401k contributions. Lost I stuff above our pay grades.
Yes, JetBlue will delay, delay, delay (JetBlue Standard) and plead that they need time. However, if they just pay the money to hire the necessary people it can be done within weeks for all pilots in 3A.
Just my opinion......
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