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Old 12-13-2014, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lechedegato View Post
Former North American here. Not to scare anyone, but for us Steve was basically brought on board to suck as much money out of the operation as possible for the investors before bankruptcy. The man has no soul or conscience, and will do whatever it takes to get the most out of Allegient for the investors only with no intention of building a stronger company. That was his goal at NAA and he was given a bonus for it. Again that was just what happened with us. I'm usually a glass is half full guy and didn't believe it but that is what ended up happening. It sucks but I think with everything going on over there recently it looks like you guys are headed down the same path. Just my opinion of course. The good news is EVERYONE is hiring NOW.

That’s pretty much par for the course. Airlines especially, subscribe to the Napoleonic school of management. Lorenzo wannabee’s are all we’re use to. It’s all-good, if a fight is what he came here for, a fight he’s gonna get. Lots of lifeboats in the water these days, and not afraid to jump in one.
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Old 12-13-2014, 12:55 PM
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The short answer is yes. Documents that came out during the Global/World/North American bankruptcy painted a picture that neither airline was expected to survive after the wind down of the war. The Matin Patterson folks desired to pull as much cash out of the operation before it happened.

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Thanks for the info. One question: was North American already on shaky financial ground when this guy was brought in? The reason I ask is that Allegiant is very strong financially and I don't see a shutdown anywhere in our future (except for the one WE are going to create). This guy seems like a hired gun brought in to keep employees at bay and make the ultra rich even richer. He's going to be met with 500 fed up pilots on Day 1.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:55 AM
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Quick question regarding the $2 dividend. Does that get logged as an operational expense? In other words, when they pull the $44 million out, will that automatically change our pay band?
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:57 AM
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Quick question regarding the $2 dividend. Does that get logged as an operational expense? In other words, when they pull the $44 million out, will that automatically change our pay band?
I'm no accountant but I wouldn't think so as it is not a direct operational cost...
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Quick question regarding the $2 dividend. Does that get logged as an operational expense? In other words, when they pull the $44 million out, will that automatically change our pay band?

Pay band is for chumps!
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:54 AM
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Quick question regarding the $2 dividend. Does that get logged as an operational expense? In other words, when they pull the $44 million out, will that automatically change our pay band?
No, it comes directly from cash on hand. If that affected our pay, you would see blood in the streets.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CLMP View Post
No, it comes directly from cash on hand. If that affected our pay, you would see blood in the streets.
We didn't see that after we all took a pay cut to Band 2 after they charged the engine overhauls to our same numbers. They would if they could.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:16 PM
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We didn't see that after we all took a pay cut to Band 2 after they charged the engine overhauls to our same numbers. They would if they could.
That's because to this day, many pilots still don't KNOW what they did. I educate as many as possible, however.
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:52 PM
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I hope you are not suggesting that our management would manipulate the balance sheet to show whatever numbers would support their position. Thereby paying us whatever they deem necessary, that is not reflective of the actual wealth and health of our company? The good senator wouldn’t lie to us? He certainly is a man of impeccable reputation and above reproach. I ask you, has he lied before or after this alleged “cooking” of the books??


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That's because to this day, many pilots still don't KNOW what they did. I educate as many as possible, however.

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Old 12-17-2014, 07:33 AM
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Does anyone use LogTen Pro?

Is there a way to import your schedule from Merlot?
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