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03-30-2015, 07:12 PM
#2271
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
We have offered olive branch after olive branch and management has broken them over their knee and chucked them back in our faces. The waiting is over. If you give them another month, there will always be an excuse to wait ANOTHER month after that. If anything, this strike will expose management to the NMB for the con artists they are. They laugh at the federal court just like they laugh at us. They don't think we have the wherewithal to accomplish a strike. Waiting even longer just proves them right.
03-30-2015, 07:41 PM
#2272
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 551
If we can't hold them to honoring our current rules, what makes you think they'll honor our contract? They need to know we will hold them accountable and the time in NOW.
03-30-2015, 07:41 PM
#2273
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 34
Originally Posted by CLMP
We have offered olive branch after olive branch and management has broken them over their knee and chucked them back in our faces. The waiting is over. If you give them another month, there will always be an excuse to wait ANOTHER month after that. If anything, this strike will expose management to the NMB for the con artists they are. They laugh at the federal court just like they laugh at us. They don't think we have the wherewithal to accomplish a strike. Waiting even longer just proves them right.
Last edited by davidsthubbins; 03-30-2015 at 07:53 PM.
03-30-2015, 07:45 PM
#2274
Lifer
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: MD80 CA
Posts: 176
Originally Posted by CLMP
We have offered olive branch after olive branch and management has broken them over their knee and chucked them back in our faces. The waiting is over. If you give them another month, there will always be an excuse to wait ANOTHER month after that. If anything, this strike will expose management to the NMB for the con artists they are. They laugh at the federal court just like they laugh at us. They don't think we have the wherewithal to accomplish a strike. Waiting even longer just proves them right.
03-30-2015, 07:54 PM
#2275
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 519
Originally Posted by davidsthubbins
Show them, expose them, prove it to them.... That's all I've been hearing for a month. Where's our focus? I want to strike too...for a contract!! All this passion and rage for a status quo strike....let's rage for a contract!! You're saying I want to give the company another month? NO! I'm saying give the NMB another month. They called this meeting. This could be it guys! This could be the meeting that pushes them over that edge...that makes them realize that a release is necessary. If not, and this just some stupid attempt to restart pointless negotiations...then we hit the pavement. Why risk angering even a single NMB member and possibly delaying what we all want.
03-30-2015, 08:25 PM
#2276
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
History has proven your suggestion that we continue on with a ‘Policy of Appeasement’, is bad on so many levels. Why would the nmb care about an obvious status quo violation? All we are doing is reinstating the starting line that g4 management illegally removed. Wait another month? No sir. I am grateful you are not running our union. Our focus is pretty clear; we are now enacting a legally and morally justified battle. (or about to, [Disclaimer]I am not a union official and/or union lawyer[thats for the rats.])
To which the ripple effects will be outstanding. The stock is hovering around 190 a share; lets watch it drop and see what happens to whom. No longer will mg be able to shine on the investor calls with, ‘Oh, everything is fine, there won’t be a strike anytime soon; there are no labor problems..’
To which the ripple effects will be outstanding. The stock is hovering around 190 a share; lets watch it drop and see what happens to whom. No longer will mg be able to shine on the investor calls with, ‘Oh, everything is fine, there won’t be a strike anytime soon; there are no labor problems..’
Originally Posted by davidsthubbins
Show them, expose them, prove it to them.... That's all I've been hearing for a month. Where's our focus? I want to strike too...for a contract!! All this passion and rage for a status quo strike....let's rage for a contract!! You're saying I want to give the company another month? NO! I'm saying give the NMB another month. They called this meeting. This could be it guys! This could be the meeting that pushes them over that edge...that makes them realize that a release is necessary. If not, and this just some stupid attempt to restart pointless negotiations...then we hit the pavement. Why risk angering even a single NMB member and possibly delaying a release.
Last edited by Xbone; 03-30-2015 at 08:40 PM.
03-30-2015, 08:40 PM
#2277
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 84
Originally Posted by davidsthubbins
Show them, expose them, prove it to them.... That's all I've been hearing for a month. Where's our focus? I want to strike too...for a contract!! All this passion and rage for a status quo strike....let's rage for a contract!! You're saying I want to give the company another month? NO! I'm saying give the NMB another month. They called this meeting. This could be it guys! This could be the meeting that pushes them over that edge...that makes them realize that a release is necessary. If not, and this just some stupid attempt to restart pointless negotiations...then we hit the pavement. Why risk angering even a single NMB member and possibly delaying a release.
I understand where you're coming from. However, if we don't get back the working agreement we had in place, then we will be waisting time negotiating agreements we already had in place. They are proving that they are not going to willingly give us what we already had. The position we are in now only hurts are negotiating team. We need to get back the agreements we had so that our negotiators have somewhere to start. This is why I support a possible strike.
03-30-2015, 09:09 PM
#2278
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: MD80
Posts: 34
Originally Posted by davidsthubbins
Show them, expose them, prove it to them.... That's all I've been hearing for a month. Where's our focus? I want to strike too...for a contract!! All this passion and rage for a status quo strike....let's rage for a contract!! You're saying I want to give the company another month? NO! I'm saying give the NMB another month. They called this meeting. This could be it guys! This could be the meeting that pushes them over that edge...that makes them realize that a release is necessary. If not, and this just some stupid attempt to restart pointless negotiations...then we hit the pavement. Why risk angering even a single NMB member and possibly delaying a release.
03-30-2015, 09:19 PM
#2279
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 480
Some of us suffer from a little bit of battered wife syndrome. “Just give him one more chance..”
03-30-2015, 09:52 PM
#2280
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 76
Originally Posted by davidsthubbins
Just because a status quo strike is a completely separate from the NMB release doesn't mean one can't affect the other. How do you know we're not going to anger the mediators? If your job was to mediate negotiations between 2 parties and 1 party took it upon themselves to forge their own path a mere weeks before you set a date, would you form an opinion?
It doesn't matter how separate the issues are...my guess is opinions will be formed.
It doesn't matter how separate the issues are...my guess is opinions will be formed.
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