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Old 09-02-2015, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Stok1 View Post
Our MD80 that did a high speed abort on 8-17, algt flt.#436 in vegas had a a missing "cotter pin" on the assembly that failed. That's our stellar contract mx. Lowest bidder. This captain saved the day, but he's one of our most experienced captains on property. We have many new hire captains on the md80. Had there been a lesser md experienced captain. Well, everyday that goes by is a day closer to our Valujet a new.
I dont think you are giving much credit to other Allegiant pilots/captains with that statement. It aint rocket science to abort a takeoff when the nose goes up prematurely and you want to stop.
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by crxpilot View Post
I dont think you are giving much credit to other Allegiant pilots/captains with that statement. It aint rocket science to abort a takeoff when the nose goes up prematurely and you want to stop.
That certainly is debatable. The bigger question is why is it something so simple as a cotter pin was left unattached to a primary control surface by our contract maintenance?
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Stok1 View Post
Our MD80 that did a high speed abort on 8-17, algt flt.#436 in vegas had a a missing "cotter pin" on the assembly that failed. That's our stellar contract mx. Lowest bidder. This captain saved the day, but he's one of our most experienced captains on property. We have many new hire captains on the md80. Had there been a lesser md experienced captain. Well, everyday that goes by is a day closer to our Valujet a new.
Tell us all the story of the Valujet crash and how it compares to Allegiant.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:43 AM
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Hello APC,
Just received a call from Allegiant for a phone interview. Any info that I need to know. Thanks!
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by goirishgo1976 View Post
Hello APC,
Just received a call from Allegiant for a phone interview. Any info that I need to know. Thanks!

Emergency procedures, handling a fire extinguisher, donning O2 masks....that sort of stuff.

Sorry guys, couldn't resist the layup. I respect you guys, I feel for your plight.
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Old 09-03-2015, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by goirishgo1976 View Post
Hello APC,
Just received a call from Allegiant for a phone interview. Any info that I need to know. Thanks!
Just tell allegiant management that when you're a captain in PIE, that you will not base a decision to emergency evacuate on the safety of the passengers. Instead you will do so based on any possible negative media attention, as that would negatively impact the short term stock price. Thereby decreasing allegiant management's bonus schedule for that quarter.

I believe that's what Mav(Stevie H.) and Bingo-Baden will expect of you. They tell you safety is the ideal, but whisper in the other ear, "But don't cost us money.."
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Old 09-03-2015, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
Tell us all the story of the Valujet crash and how it compares to Allegiant.

It's not the crash that he's talking about. It's the lead up to what caused the crash. Re-read the thread to get a better understanding of what people are saying.
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Old 09-03-2015, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
Tell us all the story of the Valujet crash and how it compares to Allegiant.
It starts with having a CEO that started ValuJet. His refusal to put money into maintaining the airplanes and giving crews minimal training. There is a lack of investment into the safety culture here which was identical to what it was at ValuJet. Cheap contract maintenance constantly making huge mistakes is identical to ValuJet. An abnormally high rate of declared emergencies is identical to ValuJet. The only thing that G4 hasn't done is lost an airplane. Safety is a numbers game. When things that are supposed to happen very rarely are happening on a semi normal basis the odds of something catastrophic occurring become very high. Do a Wikipedia search and read the history of ValuJet before the crash. You'll be shocked at the similarities.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:45 AM
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When did you apply? Qualifications?
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuGiant View Post
It starts with having a CEO that started ValuJet. His refusal to put money into maintaining the airplanes and giving crews minimal training. There is a lack of investment into the safety culture here which was identical to what it was at ValuJet. Cheap contract maintenance constantly making huge mistakes is identical to ValuJet. An abnormally high rate of declared emergencies is identical to ValuJet. The only thing that G4 hasn't done is lost an airplane. Safety is a numbers game. When things that are supposed to happen very rarely are happening on a semi normal basis the odds of something catastrophic occurring become very high. Do a Wikipedia search and read the history of ValuJet before the crash. You'll be shocked at the similarities.
This is the story all at Allegiant need to get on board with and not stop talking about. The best contract in the world will not fix these maintenance issues.
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