Bob Paulson

Good point, my fingers are crossed for ATL.

zoooropa

Cincy has an agreement with DAL through 2015 prohibiting incentives for new airline service.

If it is the Nasty, it won't be significant growth until 2016. I would be surprised considering CVG offers very little O/D traffic, but F9 is moving away from hub and spoke so O/D isn't a make or break issue.

Scooter2525

"daily flights from Atlanta to Los Angeles, Las Vegas, New Orleans, New York LaGuardia, Cincinnati and Minneapolis"

Just added today.

Bob Paulson

Yep, just saw that as well. Maybe I have power over the universe and did not know it until today....if so, what should I use my infinite powers to accomplish? World peace? Cubs world series? I've got it! I shall bring back Three's Company! TV has not been the same since....

Aero1900

Atlanta will have 16 frontier routes by April. Cleveland is expanding again, and Cincinnati just expanded too. I'm starting to wonder where we will find the time with the airplanes to do all of this? As far as I know, we will only have 2 additional airplanes between today and the April 30th launch of the major Atlanta expansion

sandrich

Is it true that F9 is "supposed" to honor the integrated seniority list with RAH? If that's the case, I guess it's safe to say not many RAH guys will be hired?

zoooropa

I don't know if I am misreading the question or if you are throwing darts but bringing up the IMSL to an F9 pilot is like sending a guy a video of you banging his wife. Many of us have brain damage over the IMSL, it was a painful episode.

Eichen interpreted a dispute over this issue back in September 2014. The summary of the award is as follows;

1) The Eischen Award does not compel Frontier to offer new first officer positions on Airbus aircraft to pilots on the IMSL, according to their IMSL seniority, before Frontier may hire new pilots off the street.
2) The Eischen Award does not compel Frontier to create and offer a bid process by which Republic pilots may bid for new first officer positions on Airbus aircraft, based on their IMSL status, before Frontier may hire new pilots off the street
3) The Seniority Integration Award, with its provision making the IMSL and its Conditions/Restrictions “a part of the collective bargaining agreement(s) applicable to the combined craft or class of Flight Deck Crew Members” for Republic Airlines et al./Frontier (DRA § V (j)), does not compel Frontier Airlines, Inc. to offer new First Officer positions on Airbus aircraft to pilots on the IMSL, according to their IMSL seniority, before Frontier may hire new pilots off the street.
4) The IMSL and its Conditions/Restrictions, which have been made “a part of the collective bargaining agreement(s) applicable to the combined craft or class of Flight Deck Crew Members” for Republic Airlines et al./Frontier (DRA § V (j)), does not require Frontier to make the “Staffing Adjustment” process in Section 6 of the Frontier CBA available to Republic pilots, so they may use their IMSL seniority to bid for unfilled First Officer positions on Airbus aircraft, before Frontier may hire new pilots off the street.”

In other words, the IMSL no longer applies for any seniority rights at F9. It was a list of names when it was awarded but it was never used to fill a vacancy at F9 and it will never be used to fill a vacancy at F9 thanks to the NMB decision last fall.

I apologize if this creates a thread drift from the F9 hiring but it should be known that the IMSL has no affect on hiring or the filling of vacancies.

There is still one lawsuit pending filed by four of the former YX pilots. I have no idea when it will be resolved or what the outcome will be.

Chuck D

That sounds false, since it actually seems to have quite the effect on hiring, given the apparent ban on interviewing RAH pilots. No point in getting into the question here of why an RAHer would want to apply or how many have apps in, but a few RAH pilots (some junior ones I know of) do have an app in and have also been told that they'll never get a call. They appear to have at least competitive resumes based on what I've seen of F9 hiring lately. If accurate, it's an interesting policy and not a very friendly one when we all appreciate the privilege of occupying a jumpseat sometimes.

Do you know whether this is currently the case?

Scooter2525

A jumpseat war is a lose/lose situation all around. Especially if it's over hiring practices. Are you a captain at RAH?

JerkStore

I'm afraid that happened a long time ago.