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Old 10-07-2013, 09:20 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Funny, I had a pile of pallets of it the other day. Guess we didn't get the memo.
Me too. I actually handled some when a box fell off of the belt loader while I did my walkaround. I picked it up and handed it to the handler.
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Sorry but that is completely incorrect, it is only an issue at freight carriers because the crews could potentially have access to freight in flight, it doesn't apply to any other carrier. I know several pilots that have been abroad for years and have now gotten jobs with several of the majors in the US. And no, these are NOT guys coming back from furlough.

I was at a job abroad back when I got hired the first and second time at a major and it wasn't an issue.
Note that, even at the freight carriers, it can be a loosey-goosey issue. I've been abroad much of the last six years, but was a US resident - legally - the entire time, even though I passed the IRS physical presence test a couple of years. Most American expats are in the same boat. Now I'm not sure how FedEx and UPS (and the USPS) are interpreting "resident", but unless you've picked up and moved the whole kit-and-kaboodle and actually changed your residence, I suspect an overseas job is a non-issue. Any FedEx or UPS guys care to detach themselves from the freight forum and weigh in?
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Since ATA shut down, I've had to bounce around the Expat Contract pilot world. I've applied to the usual suspects of late. Any idea if they are interviewing/hiring expat pilots? I know some are taking recall and going back, and I know SWA has in the past, but I was wondering what the present looks like.

I know UPS and FEDEX won't touch me, so you don't have to bring that up.
Jet Airways in India is hiring again, for the B737NG.
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Old 10-07-2013, 05:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Note that, even at the freight carriers, it can be a loosey-goosey issue. I've been abroad much of the last six years, but was a US resident - legally - the entire time, even though I passed the IRS physical presence test a couple of years. Most American expats are in the same boat. Now I'm not sure how FedEx and UPS (and the USPS) are interpreting "resident", but unless you've picked up and moved the whole kit-and-kaboodle and actually changed your residence, I suspect an overseas job is a non-issue. Any FedEx or UPS guys care to detach themselves from the freight forum and weigh in?
This was discussed a while back in the cargo forums and the story from somebody that applied at FedEx was that working or residing abroad was a no go, it is unclear if UPS has the same restriction though, for what I understand it is only FedEx...!
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This was discussed a while back in the cargo forums and the story from somebody that applied at FedEx was that working or residing abroad was a no go, it is unclear if UPS has the same restriction though, for what I understand it is only FedEx...!
I remember reading that and I thought the answer was that working abroad was ok as long as it was a commuting contract and not one that required one to live abroad.

I know, semantics. Just making the distinction that working abroad doesn't necessarily mean "living" abroad.
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This was discussed a while back in the cargo forums and the story from somebody that applied at FedEx was that working or residing abroad was a no go, it is unclear if UPS has the same restriction though, for what I understand it is only FedEx...!
Yeah, I saw it, but IIRC the restriction was exaggerated by one of the posters. Even a long international overnight would technically proscribe you from working at FedEx. I don't believe that, so again the key is how somebody in Memphis defines "reside".
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I remember reading that and I thought the answer was that working abroad was ok as long as it was a commuting contract and not one that required one to live abroad.

I know, semantics. Just making the distinction that working abroad doesn't necessarily mean "living" abroad.
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