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01-30-2015, 12:08 PM
#3421
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Hates Commuting
Posts: 887
Originally Posted by Sputnik
First regarding 717Bs bidding off. The first class of this wave entered class on Jan 13, 2014. This last AE closed on the 12th. If I understand correctly, no new hires in this wave were eligible to bid off the 717?
By that math, the AE's period begins tomorrow, 31 Jan; any class(es) on or before that date were eligible to bid off.
If I'm wrong, someone will be along shortly to correct me....
EDIT: Got curious, took a look at the master seniority list for Jan. #11365 was the plug for the 27 Jan class, the last that started before 31 Jan 14. On the AE award, I see one guy who from the 13 Jan class who bid off the DTW717 for the DTW73N. All the other 717Bs who left appear to have gone to the SEA73N (so seat lock n/a) or have been hired prior to 2014.
01-30-2015, 12:24 PM
#3423
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: F-16 & 737 gear actuator
Posts: 95
Originally Posted by Squirt F15
Did they email the drop for 2/2 out? How did guys/gals know about it before class start?
02-01-2015, 03:23 AM
#3424
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 938
Originally Posted by Sputnik
Here's my thinking, and welcome any holes you guys can poke.
First regarding 717Bs bidding off. The first class of this wave entered class on Jan 13, 2014. This last AE closed on the 12th. If I understand correctly, no new hires in this wave were eligible to bid off the 717?
More to the point, no new hires have been able to bid off anything (other than the new categories that opened). Which explains the curious fact that a Sept new hire would have higher seniority on the 320 than the 88 in Atl, and can't even hold the 717
My pet theory is that the seat locks are skewing things. My guess is that as seat locks begin to expire and people can move from less desirable fleets, things will return to more 'normal' historic modes--88 getting more junior.
Next few AEs should clear things up. There were 94 folks hired in Jan-Feb 14.
First regarding 717Bs bidding off. The first class of this wave entered class on Jan 13, 2014. This last AE closed on the 12th. If I understand correctly, no new hires in this wave were eligible to bid off the 717?
More to the point, no new hires have been able to bid off anything (other than the new categories that opened). Which explains the curious fact that a Sept new hire would have higher seniority on the 320 than the 88 in Atl, and can't even hold the 717
My pet theory is that the seat locks are skewing things. My guess is that as seat locks begin to expire and people can move from less desirable fleets, things will return to more 'normal' historic modes--88 getting more junior.
Next few AEs should clear things up. There were 94 folks hired in Jan-Feb 14.
Originally Posted by Jughead135
My understanding is that it's the start of the training window that determines if a seat lock applies or not; the close of the AE itself isn't a factor.
By that math, the AE's period begins tomorrow, 31 Jan; any class(es) on or before that date were eligible to bid off.
If I'm wrong, someone will be along shortly to correct me....
EDIT: Got curious, took a look at the master seniority list for Jan. #11365 was the plug for the 27 Jan class, the last that started before 31 Jan 14. On the AE award, I see one guy who from the 13 Jan class who bid off the DTW717 for the DTW73N. All the other 717Bs who left appear to have gone to the SEA73N (so seat lock n/a) or have been hired prior to 2014.
By that math, the AE's period begins tomorrow, 31 Jan; any class(es) on or before that date were eligible to bid off.
If I'm wrong, someone will be along shortly to correct me....
EDIT: Got curious, took a look at the master seniority list for Jan. #11365 was the plug for the 27 Jan class, the last that started before 31 Jan 14. On the AE award, I see one guy who from the 13 Jan class who bid off the DTW717 for the DTW73N. All the other 717Bs who left appear to have gone to the SEA73N (so seat lock n/a) or have been hired prior to 2014.
After glancing briefly at the award, it looks like there were others hired in JAN 2014 beyond what you mentioned that also changed equipment on that bid. NYC M88 B to NYC 73N B was one that I saw.
02-01-2015, 04:34 AM
#3425
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: NYC 7ER LCA
Posts: 900
Originally Posted by Jughead135
I see one guy who from the 13 Jan class who bid off the DTW717 for the DTW73N. All the other 717Bs who left appear to have gone to the SEA73N (so seat lock n/a) or have been hired prior to 2014.
I've been outed!!!
02-01-2015, 07:03 AM
#3427
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: NYC 7ER LCA
Posts: 900
Originally Posted by Squirt F15
What are the odds of an ATL option in the next drop this next class...02/17?
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02-01-2015, 07:27 AM
#3428
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Hates Commuting
Posts: 887
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
That's pretty close. Technically under the PWA it is not driven by a "training window" but by the earliest conversion date for the AE award. [...] On the most recent AE, the published conversion window was from 31JAN2015 - 02JUL2015. Any pilot with a category freeze set to expire prior to 31JAN2015 was eligible to bid without a freeze on that AE. This included both JAN2014 new hire classes.
02-01-2015, 07:29 AM
#3429
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 737A
Posts: 1,890
Originally Posted by bohicagain
Very small. I think the last few have gotten all NYC. If the last few classes were able to fill up NYC then you might see a few ATL spots
02-01-2015, 10:46 AM
#3430
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Joined APC: May 2012
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 250
I am curious if anyone on here has been hired or interviewed with similar qualifications @ DAL? Non military and non 121 basically.
5600 TT (Mostly 91/135)
4300 ME
3775 Jet
3900 PIC
2525 Jet PIC
BS Aviation Management 3.4 GPA (SIU)
No Accidents or violations
Currently flying a G450 as an international captain 91/135
Background flying mostly in large/mid transport (G-V, G-IV, DA50)
5600 TT (Mostly 91/135)
4300 ME
3775 Jet
3900 PIC
2525 Jet PIC
BS Aviation Management 3.4 GPA (SIU)
No Accidents or violations
Currently flying a G450 as an international captain 91/135
Background flying mostly in large/mid transport (G-V, G-IV, DA50)
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