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Old 11-12-2013, 05:46 PM
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You guys just brought the same crap over from the forum.
Corndog, the pilots here are the most distinguished group of airline scofflaws and degenerates ever gathered together in one place. Welcome.

And fwiw, as Delta pilots we bring crap from every conceivable corner of the internet and deposit it here. We own this place.

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Old 11-12-2013, 06:10 PM
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In the spirit of "constructive engagement," perhaps DALPA's "special committee" can borrow the company's in-house union buster to take down the DPA.

Isn't that why the "special committee" is around? To aggressively bust a union drive by any means necessary?

It's absolutely divine...if you are a connoisseur of irony.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Corndog, the pilots here are the most distinguished group of airline scofflaws and degenerates ever gathered together in one place. Welcome.

And fwiw, as Delta pilots we bring crap from every conceivable corner of the internet and deposit it here. We own this place.

That picture brings back memories.

We need to have a reunion. We'll invite Shoelu, Rolf, Oscar, 1s1e and some of the others over. Tsquare will make sure it stays diplomatic. They can toss some kittens on the grill (stay away boomer). Get'em hammered on torpedoes and have 'em sign off on arbitration.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
That picture brings back memories.

We need to have a reunion. We'll invite Shoelu, Rolf, Oscar, 1s1e and some of the others over. Tsquare will make sure it stays diplomatic. They can toss some kittens on the grill (stay away boomer). Get'em hammered on torpedoes and have 'em sign off on arbitration.
Yeah, that was a good time. I miss those guys.
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:53 AM
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Regarding the "Special Committee", I refer to them as the Secret Police because every dictatorship has one. It's part of the fear campaign that's always waged against the governed to keep them in line. This Special Committee lives to try and destroy the DPA through any means possible. There are no rules as to how far they can go to succeed in their objective. Calling them the Secret Police is not a smear campaign. They are behaving exactly like a Secret Police. We should all be appalled by it.

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Hmmmmm...you mean like the DPA Go Team? Oh wait....they're just out there to inform. Unlike DALPAs "Secret Police" who are simply doing the exact same thing. Unless you can provide proof of otherwise?


And how about DPA accusing ALPA of hacking the DPA website with NO PROOF at all to back it up? Pointing a finger at DALPA accusing them of a crime with NO evidence to back it up. Should we be appalled by that too Carl?

If you back an organization that makes accusations without proof, then it's evident that you'll lie yourself. You have no proof a of "Secret Police." You're simply making things up, and smearing your fellow pilots while doing so. And then you want to criticize ALPA for using the term scourge?
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
Hmmmmm...you mean like the DPA Go Team? Oh wait....they're just out there to inform. Unlike DALPAs "Secret Police" who are simply doing the exact same thing. Unless you can provide proof of otherwise?
You could never put your Pom Poms down long enough to get this, but the two are totally different. The Go Team has almost no funding, it's all volunteer. The Secret Police have been funded to $90,000 so far, and an unknown amount since the MEC chairman recall.

The former MEC chairman was uncomfortable with the Secret Police because he thought the way you get fence sitters to stay on your side was to properly inform, not attack. He didn't think an attack was the thing to do with pilots you were hoping to win over.

The Special Committe was and is a well funded attack machine. That's just one of the differences between us.

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Old 11-13-2013, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
And how about DPA accusing ALPA of hacking the DPA website with NO PROOF at all to back it up? Pointing a finger at DALPA accusing them of a crime with NO evidence to back it up. Should we be appalled by that too Carl?
Then DALPA/ALPA should sue immediately for defamation. Ever wonder why DALPA/ALPA won't do that?

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Old 11-13-2013, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29 View Post
If you back an organization that makes accusations without proof, then it's evident that you'll lie yourself. You have no proof a of "Secret Police." You're simply making things up, and smearing your fellow pilots while doing so. And then you want to criticize ALPA for using the term scourge?
Weak attempt at a Saul Alinsky impersonation. Everything you've just described is ALPA's behavior and is exactly why ALPA has lost 5,600 members' support.

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Old 11-13-2013, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Look finis, there's a ton of pro ALPA stuff posted here, and I rarely refer to them as what you listed above. I only refer to people as Moak proxies when I actually know they are. Currently working for Moak and formerly working for him are examples. That is not a smear campaign. A smear campaign is what is currently being done to Roberts as post justification for the coup that removed him. A smear campaign is what was done to Ryan after he wrote the letter. A smear campaign is what Bigbusdriver just did to Bill Bartels.
If they ever call for expert witnesses on smear campaign to testify, you won't be in the audience, Carl. You'll get a comfortable seat next to the judge.
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And who the [bleep] is Saul Alinsky? Is he some Machiavellian character? Or just an overused talking point?
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