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Old 07-25-2014, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by OrionDriver View Post
I haven't posted much on this forum. Mostly I'm trying to get the lay of the land before making the jump from the military. I'm also totally unfamiliar with the whole union dimension. So please forgive my ignorance.

I sense a lot of AS hating out there and I've yet to determine why this is. I realize they're not a big fish like DL or others, but have they ****ed off the other carriers?
Your senses are 100% accurate. Since you posted this there's been multiple DAL fraternal brothers claiming there's no angst against AS pilots but the last year or so on this forum, almost every AS thread proves differently. Where do you think your "senses" are coming from? ...you're reading it on here on a daily basis. Quickest way to get a thread shut down is to post something positive about Alaska & then sit back & watch the D-guys destroy it, it's actually funny to watch. This thread for example will be closed within a day or two, you can count on it.

Latest news is AS management is now single handedly responsible for destroying the Pilot profession as we know it because we put 10 passengers a day nonstop to Dubai with a codeshare with Emirates. Give me a break.

And if by Alaska pilots flourishing while Delta pilots suffer means furloughs, stagnation and zero movement then yes, we are FLOURISHING over here at Alaska Airlines. The only significant growth we've had in the past 10 years has come in the last 3 months which is a result of our response to our fight with big D.

So the question on the street is who is going to stop Delta? answer: themselves.

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Old 07-25-2014, 01:11 PM
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Thanks for the background info, y'all. I do appreciate it.

Looking from the outside in, the airline industry sure seems a lot more complicated than a navy dude's career path...
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Old 07-25-2014, 02:16 PM
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Thanks for the background info, y'all. I do appreciate it.

Looking from the outside in, the airline industry sure seems a lot more complicated than a navy dude's career path...
Here's the history of it:

DL's codeshare begins to break down with AS, DL begins to focus on SEA organic expansion, and introduces service into JNU.

AS guys got very sensitive about it, and the ribbing began (including the misspelling of "Juno"). It's nothing personal, but a few over sensitive types have made it out to be more than it is.

We're all airline pilots, and we want our companies to do well. Like sports teams fans, a few go a bit over the top. Most of us just enjoy the game.
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Old 07-25-2014, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Here's the history of it:

DL's codeshare begins to break down with AS, DL begins to focus on SEA organic expansion, and introduces service into JNU.

AS guys got very sensitive about it, and the ribbing began (including the misspelling of "Juno"). It's nothing personal, but a few over sensitive types have made it out to be more than it is.

We're all airline pilots, and we want our companies to do well. Like sports teams fans, a few go a bit over the top. Most of us just enjoy the game.
Zackly!....just some good nature ribbing going both ways, taken a bit too seriously by some (Rhymes with "melican")
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Come on clamp....a few AS guys got sensitive, as did several DAL types. Most of us on both sides just shake our heads.

None of us on this site have any say, but a select few on both sides just can't keep their panties unbunched.




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Old 07-25-2014, 04:46 PM
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Come on clamp....a few AS guys got sensitive, as did several DAL types. Most of us on both sides just shake our heads.

None of us on this site have any say, but a select few on both sides just can't keep their panties unbunched.




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AS types definitely got upset about JNU early on, then the back and forth and then oversensitive guys from each side ruined the fun. Should have been more specific.
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Here's the history of it:

DL's codeshare begins to break down with AS, DL begins to focus on SEA organic expansion, and introduces service into JNU.

AS guys got very sensitive about it, and the ribbing began (including the misspelling of "Juno"). It's nothing personal, but a few over sensitive types have made it out to be more than it is.

We're all airline pilots, and we want our companies to do well. Like sports teams fans, a few go a bit over the top. Most of us just enjoy the game.
C'mon, the skygod reputation goes WAYYYY further back than that. You all earned it, own up to it and stop blaming everyone else. As per the last few posts, AS management is responsible for destroying the profession and evidently I am responsible for the public perception that DL pilots are arrogant.

You can't post things like Adios Alaska one minute and then turn around the next and wish us great prosperity, it doesn't pass the litmus test. But hey, if it makes you all feel better to post maintenance logs from our fatal crashes or wish us good riddance feel free, I believe it's enhancing your reputation nicely.
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:15 PM
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Speaking of one of the oversensitive types... Relax!
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OrionDriver View Post
I haven't posted much on this forum. Mostly I'm trying to get the lay of the land before making the jump from the military. I'm also totally unfamiliar with the whole union dimension. So please forgive my ignorance.

I sense a lot of AS hating out there and I've yet to determine why this is. I realize they're not a big fish like DL or others, but have they ****ed off the other carriers?
Don't take any of what you read here too seriously, most of us are only hear to bust balls and have a little fun yanking chains on the tightly wound.

Think of it like the ready room, when Ice and Mav were going at it.

Or was that the volley ball scene...?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/8af...ears-from-nino

You guys are dangerous!
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Here's the history of it:

DL's codeshare begins to break down with AS, DL begins to focus on SEA organic expansion, and introduces service into JNU.

AS guys got very sensitive about it, and the ribbing began (including the misspelling of "Juno"). It's nothing personal, but a few over sensitive types have made it out to be more than it is.

We're all airline pilots, and we want our companies to do well. Like sports teams fans, a few go a bit over the top. Most of us just enjoy the game.
It goes a little further back for DAL LA guys. Code share gets signed, we lose a lot of our premium flying to AS, and begin to complain. Alaska guys weigh in on this forum as if it's no big deal and we need to get over it. They hire, we don't. Our operation in LA and at SNA suffers a little due to gate availability and DAL rampers supporting AS flights.

Fast forward, we're taking back said flying and Alaska guys complain. We're happy.
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