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08-15-2014, 11:23 AM

#21

Mephesto

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Senior Skipper

If I think we're getting too slow, I tend to be less subtle..."what's min speed in this config?"

And that's fair. I definitely want to know if I'm doing something wrong. But some things are just matters of technique. No two people are exactly alike in that regard, and trying to micromanage coworkers on matters of technique is annoying to the extreme.

08-15-2014, 11:30 AM

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Mephesto

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Senior Skipper

I've done that before. Not trying to prompt the CA, but If I'm expecting a call for flaps, I may put my hand near the lever.

I'd be real careful about that. I've had more than one FO spring-loaded to extend the flaps, and then did so while distracted talking on the radio, thinking I had called for them. Sometimes that extra second to think, "wait a second, what did I just hear?" can avoid an embarrassing situation.

08-15-2014, 11:56 AM

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Herman

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Here's one guys...look over at him respectfully and say "hey boss I think it's great you made 06. Shame you got out though. Guy I flew w/ last week was a two star General. He was the best dang pilot I ever met he was!" Then pull out the FOM, gaze to the heavens and occasionally sigh. Cheers H

08-16-2014, 05:07 AM

#24

TraneOfThought

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Give them a bottle of water and tell em they got sand in their mangina lol

08-16-2014, 07:08 AM

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lionflyer

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Nothing grinds my butt more than the tool that wants to give you an oral exam.

08-16-2014, 07:23 AM

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TheFly

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When you're the last one to the plane because you're coming in on a deadhead, 5 mins to push and the walk around nor the FMS have been done. Lazy.

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08-16-2014, 07:31 AM

#27

tomgoodman

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Originally Posted by TheFly

When you're the last one to the plane because you're coming in on a deadhead, 5 mins to push and the walk around nor the FMS have been complete. Lazy.

A CRM trainer asked one of our CAs: "What would you do if the F/O showed up at the airplane 5 minutes before pushback?"
The CA replied: "If he wants to arrive so early, that's up to him."

08-16-2014, 07:41 AM

#28

Airhoss

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Originally Posted by TheFly

When you're the last one to the plane because you're coming in on a deadhead, 5 mins to push and the walk around nor the FMS have been complete. Lazy.

I was just going to say that. I got DH'd in a couple of months ago and was almost an hour past push time when I got to the plane, the left seat space occupier was reading a magazine. He had not done the walk around or the FMS........

Here's my favorite though. Complain about your financial problems to me for the first two days. Whine and cry about how you can't afford to send your kids to college. Then spend the next two days showing me pictures of your new boat, plane, camper and kitchen upgrade! (I'm NOT kidding here!!).

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08-16-2014, 07:57 AM

#29

TheFly

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Ok, ok one more. The guy who talks, then stops, IC off. Ten seconds later, he continues the conversation for another 10 seconds, stops, IC comes off again. Wash, rinse, repeat…again, and again…and…again. It's ok not to talk so I can listen to my iPod.

08-16-2014, 08:05 AM

#30

navigatro

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Senior Skipper

I've done that before. Not trying to prompt the CA, but If I'm expecting a call for flaps, I may put my hand near the lever. If I think we're getting too slow, I tend to be less subtle..."what's min speed in this config?"

The best way to not be subtle, is to be direct: "airspeed is slow"

All this *****footing around doesn't help anybody.