Delta EFB??
09-02-2014, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Met someone who was on the team setting up the EFBs while waiting on a flight recently. WiFi network would be separate from passenger wifi system to minimize this concern. I also queried about the decision to go with the RT instead of the PRO and it basically had to do with battery life. The tablets are leased for only 2-4 years if I remember correctly, so the next generation tablets will probably run better than the RTs.
The iPads didn't allow for much growth or development whereas the Microsoft product allowed the company more ease of laterating programming and developing new features.
The iPads didn't allow for much growth or development whereas the Microsoft product allowed the company more ease of laterating programming and developing new features.
09-02-2014, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Delta makes poor business decisions based on spite and ego. Delta is more like a fraternity and less like a business.
Funny wall street seems to think they are the most business like of the major airlines. Operationally they seem to be doing well also. Must be blind luck!
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Delta makes poor business decisions based on spite and ego. Delta is more like a fraternity and less like a business.
Funny wall street seems to think they are the most business like of the major airlines. Operationally they seem to be doing well also. Must be blind luck!
09-02-2014, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Post a link. Show me proof that "wall street seems to think they are the most business like of the major airlines". Take a look at the profit margins. There are many airlines out performing Delta.
Market cap today at Delta 34 billion.
UAL 18.67 billion
American 29.1 billion
Southwest 22.5 billion
On a operational basis Delta is easily out performing all the above airlines.
Please name the many airlines out performing Delta on a profit margin basis over the last two years. Delta is projecting a 17% margin for this quarter.
09-02-2014, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Post a link. Show me proof that "wall street seems to think they are the most business like of the major airlines". Take a look at the profit margins. There are many airlines out performing Delta.
Stock value and total market valuation.
Market cap today at Delta 34 billion.
UAL 18.67 billion
American 29.1 billion
Southwest 22.5 billion
On a operational basis Delta is easily out performing all the above airlines.
Please name the many airlines out performing Delta on a profit margin basis over the last two years. Delta is projecting a 17% margin for this quarter.
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Post a link. Show me proof that "wall street seems to think they are the most business like of the major airlines". Take a look at the profit margins. There are many airlines out performing Delta.
Stock value and total market valuation.
Market cap today at Delta 34 billion.
UAL 18.67 billion
American 29.1 billion
Southwest 22.5 billion
On a operational basis Delta is easily out performing all the above airlines.
Please name the many airlines out performing Delta on a profit margin basis over the last two years. Delta is projecting a 17% margin for this quarter.
Delta won't have a 17% profit margin. Even if they do Allegiant is still more profitable.
http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324423904578525310460541592?mobile =y
Read the 4th paragraph.
"Allegiant's strategy has led to profits in 39 of its last 41 quarters. In the first quarter this year, its pretax profit margin was 18.5% on revenue of $909 million, compared with 13.4% at Spirit Airlines Inc. and 5.2% at Alaska Air Group Inc. No other publicly traded U.S. airline surpassed 2.3%. Over the past five years, Allegiant's stock has risen 361%, closing at $96.38 Tuesday."
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09-02-2014, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Please name the many airlines out performing Delta on a profit margin basis over the last two years. Delta is projecting a 17% margin for this quarter.
Delta Air Lines Profit Margin (Quarterly):
7.54% for June 30, 2014
DAL Profit Margin (Quarterly) Benchmarks
Companies
United Continental 7.64% Southwest Airlines 9.28% JetBlue Airways 15.41%
http://ycharts.com/companies/DAL/profit_margin
09-02-2014, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Spirit, Allegiant, Alaska......
Delta won't have a 17% profit margin. Even if they do Allegiant is still more profitable.
Allegiant Air: The Tardy, Gas-Guzzling, Most Profitable Airline in America - WSJ
Read the 4th paragraph.
"Allegiant's strategy has led to profits in 39 of its last 41 quarters. In the first quarter this year, its pretax profit margin was 18.5% on revenue of $909 million, compared with 13.4% at Spirit Airlines Inc. and 5.2% at Alaska Air Group Inc. No other publicly traded U.S. airline surpassed 2.3%. Over the past five years, Allegiant's stock has risen 361%, closing at $96.38 Tuesday."
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Delta won't have a 17% profit margin. Even if they do Allegiant is still more profitable.
Allegiant Air: The Tardy, Gas-Guzzling, Most Profitable Airline in America - WSJ
Read the 4th paragraph.
"Allegiant's strategy has led to profits in 39 of its last 41 quarters. In the first quarter this year, its pretax profit margin was 18.5% on revenue of $909 million, compared with 13.4% at Spirit Airlines Inc. and 5.2% at Alaska Air Group Inc. No other publicly traded U.S. airline surpassed 2.3%. Over the past five years, Allegiant's stock has risen 361%, closing at $96.38 Tuesday."
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Check Allegiant's progress in 5 yrs, they are no SW or even Spirit.
09-02-2014, 05:27 PM
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I give them credit for having one heck of a niche market that they so far have filled well. But the model itself is one of extremely limited expansion potential. Its not like they can just apply their "model" to a nationwide or global route map and replicate those margins through sheer awesomeness. There were regionals not that long ago that were running near 30% profit margins too. Then they ran into reality.
09-02-2014, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Spirit, Allegiant, Alaska......
Delta won't have a 17% profit margin. Even if they do Allegiant is still more profitable.
Allegiant Air: The Tardy, Gas-Guzzling, Most Profitable Airline in America - WSJ
Read the 4th paragraph.
"Allegiant's strategy has led to profits in 39 of its last 41 quarters. In the first quarter this year, its pretax profit margin was 18.5% on revenue of $909 million, compared with 13.4% at Spirit Airlines Inc. and 5.2% at Alaska Air Group Inc. No other publicly traded U.S. airline surpassed 2.3%. Over the past five years, Allegiant's stock has risen 361%, closing at $96.38 Tuesday."
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Allegiant is a train wreck looking for a destination. They have great margins cause they run on fumes, not for the long term viability with equipment, pax relations, or employees.
Check Allegiant's progress in 5 yrs, they are no SW or even Spirit.
Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat
Spirit, Allegiant, Alaska......
Delta won't have a 17% profit margin. Even if they do Allegiant is still more profitable.
Allegiant Air: The Tardy, Gas-Guzzling, Most Profitable Airline in America - WSJ
Read the 4th paragraph.
"Allegiant's strategy has led to profits in 39 of its last 41 quarters. In the first quarter this year, its pretax profit margin was 18.5% on revenue of $909 million, compared with 13.4% at Spirit Airlines Inc. and 5.2% at Alaska Air Group Inc. No other publicly traded U.S. airline surpassed 2.3%. Over the past five years, Allegiant's stock has risen 361%, closing at $96.38 Tuesday."
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Allegiant is a train wreck looking for a destination. They have great margins cause they run on fumes, not for the long term viability with equipment, pax relations, or employees.
Check Allegiant's progress in 5 yrs, they are no SW or even Spirit.
Delta still doesn't have EFB's and it's because they went with the surface 2.
09-02-2014, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I give them credit for having one heck of a niche market that they so far have filled well. But the model itself is one of extremely limited expansion potential. Its not like they can just apply their "model" to a nationwide or global route map and replicate those margins through sheer awesomeness. There were regionals not that long ago that were running near 30% profit margins too. Then they ran into reality.
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