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12-18-2014, 09:41 AM

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Klsytakesit

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nothing wrong with redefining your "commute" daily.....lots of places that we need to go after work and nothing says that it has to be where you get your mail...

12-18-2014, 09:42 AM

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Dark Knight

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Known Crewmember Change..

can anyone provide cited regs on this new change? I'd like to see how this "reads".

12-18-2014, 09:43 AM

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ILOVELAMP

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Who ever tells TSA they are flying for pleasure??! As far as I'm concerned all they need to know is that some how I am always commuting to work lol. Even though work is next Saturday.

12-18-2014, 09:47 AM

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Klsytakesit

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people new to the process may need to be schooled.....not everyone is as jaded and competent at gaming the system.....

12-18-2014, 09:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Klsytakesit

The "intent" according to an ALPA KCM guy was to allow commuting pilots and flight attendants to preserve their uniforms during their commute to and from work....They did not work on this at all for non-rev travel....Just as you are not allowed to use your ID now to be excluded from screening or the liquid rules while you are traveling for pleasure......

Where does it say anything about not allowing you to use KCM when traveling for pleasure? I didn't see it anywhere on their website. They dropped the restriction that you must be on duty awhile ago.

12-18-2014, 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Klsytakesit

Q: Does a crewmember need to be working a flight in order to use the KCM access point?
A: No. TSA headquarters’ states that a crewmember must be currently employed with a KCM participating airline, on active status and in the airline’s KCM database. TSA security officers are not responsible for determining whether a crewmember is working a flight in order to use a KCM access point. Please remember, a crewmember may be randomly selected to undergo additional screening, as there is a random screening element with all Risked Based Security (RBS) screening programs.

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12-18-2014, 10:03 AM

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Interesting point.....It would be nice if after this change ALPA would put out a question and answer geared towards this conversation.....They could put it on the KCM site so that flight attendants and non alpa pilots could access it...

12-18-2014, 10:49 AM

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§ 121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.

12-18-2014, 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

You must abide by the rules for what you intend to do. A non revenue passenger is subject to the same no liquids rule as regular passengers. It's a honor system at KCM.

Is that written somewhere, or are you making stuff up again?