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Old 03-04-2015, 07:35 AM
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Lack of commitment? Hardly. It's simply a requirement.
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Old 03-04-2015, 07:37 AM
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Airspeed, if you used the time you spend here quibbling about the degree requirement to actually work on your degree, you would have been hired last week.
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Old 03-04-2015, 08:12 AM
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I have a degree. I had a lot of fun getting it. If anything, having a degree made my overnights more enjoyable, otherwise it's just a BS box to check.

I don't think it should be a requirement, but I don't make the rules. Yet.
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Old 03-04-2015, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
The college degree today is the equivalent of a high school diploma 20 years ago. All it indicates is that you are capable of reading, comprehending, and regurgitating any training material the company gives you. It mainly applies to the newer generation of pilots. Unfortunately, for the older generation who have a HS education where they actually learned something, it is a setback.
Like others, I'd agree with this statement.

When you exclude upper tier institutions (Harvard, MIT, or whatever) as well as service academies, MOST (NOT ALL) college degrees mean what you said. Or to put it another way, it simply means that a couple things happened;

1) The student showed up enough to complete the work and
2) A check cleared to pay for it all.

I went to a non traditional college in the late 80's/early 90's that also offered an aviation program/B.S. degree. At the time, it was in the group of the older institutions that offered it, AT THAT TIME.

In my classes there were the usual "younger" people like myself, but there were ALSO older guys in there as well. These "older" guys (30's/40's) had pretty healthy amounts of experience in 121 "commuter" operations, 135, corporate gigs, etc. What were they doing there? Well, EVEN THEN it was becoming apparent that a 4 year degree would be REQUIRED if they wanted to get on with a legacy some day.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein View Post
Even if you go ahead and finish your degree, your lack of timely completion will disqualify you from Delta.
It's all subjective/relative. But I wouldn't say the above is an absolute statement. Depends on what else is in the picture of the candidate's app/resume/personal experiences.

They've hired people with multiple check ride failures in this round, as well as people that had things like DUI's later in life as opposed to in college/high school, etc. You know, when bad decisions/lack of judgment should be pretty much out of your system, etc.
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Originally Posted by OCCP View Post
Lack of commitment? Hardly. It's simply a requirement.
A lack of commitment in obtaining a requirement for an airline job.
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:22 AM
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What were you guys doing the day after high school graduation if you weren't in college? Trying to skip the seniority line? Listen, most people don't have degrees in the field they end up making a career in and the same goes for pilots. These days I'm not so sure the cost of college is worth it but nonetheless a 4 year degree shows you can set a goal and see it through. You can get a commercial multi and an instructor job in less than a year. A 4 year degree is going to take 3 years minimum even if you work your ass off. Those that have one and some of those that don't both no how much work it takes to get. If it were easy we wouldn't be having this conversation because we'd all have one.
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Old 03-04-2015, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
What were you guys doing the day after high school graduation if you weren't in college? Trying to skip the seniority line? Listen, most people don't have degrees in the field they end up making a career in and the same goes for pilots. These days I'm not so sure the cost of college is worth it but nonetheless a 4 year degree shows you can set a goal and see it through. You can get a commercial multi and an instructor job in less than a year. A 4 year degree is going to take 3 years minimum even if you work your ass off. Those that have one and some of those that don't both no how much work it takes to get. If it were easy we wouldn't be having this conversation because we'd all have one.
No, actually I was going to flight school.
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Old 03-04-2015, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein View Post
You mean the advanced jet transport systems class from Riddle doesn't mean anything when SHTF in the real plane?
No, I never said that. Ofcourse it's valuable, but personally I would prefer experience over education
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano View Post
A lack of commitment in obtaining a requirement for an airline job.
That's a very ridiculous statement
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