NikeBuddy

Hey guys/gals,

Looking for some input. I am presently an FO on a heavy aircraft as an Expat, and am looking to return to the Majors in the States (any).

My Stats are 8,000 TT, with only 1,100 Turbo-Jet PIC (121), about 6,000 total jet time. No 4 year degree (I have the credits for it, but never consolidated, and would probably need a few classes to meet the issuing colleges reqmnts)

I have a possible opportunity to take a Expat left seat job (RJ) at a substantial pay cut. Would another year or 2 of right seat heavy time do me any good, or is it the PIC time that is going to hold me back? Should I stay, or take the left seat gig?

I realize there are many variables, but this is a tough decision considering the massive pay cut to get more PIC. Gotta get back home boys, what get's me there quickest?

Thanks all for the constructive thoughts.

shoelu

1100 TPIC meets everyone's minimums I believe. Start applying and see if interviews are forthcoming.

In my opinion if you want to make yourself more marketable, work on finishing up the degree rather than increasing your TPIC. I think checking the degree box will be more valuable than additional PIC time.

MikeF16

I think the lack of a 4 year degree will make things more challenging for you. You look competitive other than that, so get consolidated and get your 4-year degree.

NikeBuddy

Apps are out everywhere. Only interview offers are from places I would not want to hang my hat. Looked at some previous transcripts, and credit evaluations. might need 27 credits...ugh! C'mon Delta, I promise at 6,000hrs on a heavy, I can fly an ILS for you

Rama

Try for a US carrier if that is your goal. Apply with everyone, there is a lot of hiring going on now. Don't get locked into a contract if you want to fly here.
Work on the degree and that will complete your resume.

NikeBuddy

Looking at the published retirement numbers at the Legacies, we are just at the beginning of this tidal wave. It may not be unreasonable to think that when retirements hit 600+ a year at all Legacies simultaneously, the Degree may be re-thought in light of actual experience? I am going to do what I need to do for now, but wonder if that may be an eventual escape hatch.

Cycle Pilot

Having a four year degree at Delta is a requirement to apply for a pilot position with us. Here's the reference...

www.deltajobs.net/pilot_qualifications.htm

There's just too much competition at the major level and most guys in this industry have a four year degree. It shows a company you're committed to this career. Your flight times are good, but you need the degree. Just bite the bullet and do it.

Pogey Bait

Stay on the heavy and get a degree.

airspeed1974

As much as I disagree with getting a degree because it has absolutely nothing to do with flying, I too am in the same boat as you. I'm left seat at a foreign carrier last 5 years but need around the same amount of credit to get the degree done which in doing now.

Unfortunately this is not the 1960s where airlines took guys without a degree. Why they even have this requirement is beyond me. But it's just another hoop we both have to jump through I guess.

FIIGMO

A degree is IMPORTANT!

Analyze it anyway you want, it proves to an employer you did what it took to achieve a higher education.... It is not about flying an ILS, it is about life skills and experience for a well rounded professional. Simple.