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Old 03-28-2015, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Garrison said airline pilots don't care about the presence of passengers any more than flying an empty airplane. He says this while never having acted as an airline pilot. That's an issue.
Very true. Specifically, he said this...

A pilot values a smooth landing because it demonstrates skill, not because the people in back are still alive.
Yeah, right. That must also be why freq's are filled with chatter about where the smoothest ride is, because pilots can't handle a little chop.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Thus (his) admonition to airline pilots needing to step up the professionalism is simply a gratuitous attack on a profession (he) know(s) nothing about. We're used to it, but it's still annoying.
Painfully true.

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Right on, brother Carl.
Can I get an "amen" from the congregation!
Amen. And again, amen!

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Old 03-28-2015, 06:42 PM
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Amen Carl...
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Old 03-28-2015, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
I agree with the OP but what can SW do about this in regards to PG's article?
Hopefully SW will try to educate the writer about the faults in what he wrote. If PG doesn't care, then hopefully SW will maybe start contributing elsewhere as he sees that Flying Magazine's supposed 'expert contributors' are just concerned about their own self interests.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:15 PM
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PG is a tool. He's projecting his own inadequacies on a bunch of people that he knows little to nothing about. I do care, I try to uphold standards, and so do most of my peers. If I ever meet the guy I'm calling him out.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:15 PM
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This article is offensive on so many levels...
Smarter and better than others because of the uniform I wear? Ha... I get paid to fly the way my company wants me to fly and wear the uniform they want me to wear. More to the point... we wear uniforms to distinguish ourselves in the event of an emergency so that we may give meaningful direction to our passengers and they may understand to follow our direction as we are not dressed as a typical fellow passenger.
Don't care about the people I transport? Wrong again... Yes, I am onboard as well but keeping those who unequivocally trust my training, experience, and professionalism safe is my calling, my passion, and my mission.
I fly planes so safe the worst pilot around can fly it? Clearly you have not met or flown the MD80/DC9, SF340, SA227, BE1900, or DHC8... my dear Peter... autopilots and automation are not always available to those flying passengers but you would know that because.... oh wait... that's right you never have been a 121 pilot.
Thanks for commenting on a profession you haven't the slightest about outside of what you read on CNN in the last few years. We appreciate it and look forward to you helping us learn how we can do our jobs in a safer, more professional, and humane manner.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:37 PM
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Amen, Carl! Preach it, brotha!
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Originally Posted by LIOG41 View Post
With the exception of a few off the mark comments, I don't think it was too far from the truth. We as pilots need to step it up professionally. Despite the pay and sub-average working conditions once in awhile, maintain your integrity and dedication to the craft.
That article was off the mark on so many levels, it was very far from the truth. The author knows nothing about being an airline pilot.

If you look at how it's set up, it's pretty obvious he put it together haphazardly and without much thought.

We need to step it up professionally? How so?


As a whole, I can't think of a more professional group. If you can, who is?
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CoolHands View Post
Good post Seggy! Although I have not yet read the Flying article, I definitely agree with your sentiments.
I haven't read Flying Magazine since the early 90's.

It's not worth my time.
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LIOG41 View Post
Despite the pay and sub-average working conditions once in awhile, maintain your integrity and dedication to the craft.
I agree 100 percent. Our code of Ethics is important. We didn't take an oath of office, per say, but we all signed up to do our duty, properly paid or not.

That being said, I have learned allot from my management team. Our airline has "un-bundled" everything in order to make a dollar. You want that bag to go with you, that will cost you. You want ice with that Coke, that will cost you.

Our current example set by management is an easy one to follow. You want more PA's, that will cost you. You want more "updates" or more whatever, that will cost you.

I am ****ssed because It takes forever to file a pay claim for money they owe you, and it just doesn't seem to cost the company anything for your inconvenience. It's hard to get the company to pay you right even when it's crystal clear you are owed the bucks.
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Originally Posted by newKnow View Post
That article was off the mark on so many levels, it was very far from the truth. The author knows nothing about being an airline pilot.

If you look at how it's set up, it's pretty obvious he put it together haphazardly and without much thought.

We need to step it up professionally? How so?


As a whole, I can't think of a more professional group. If you can, who is?
He's now a 71yr. Old curmudgeon so just about everything he writes is going to be pretty haphazard. He sounds like he's an Airline Pilot wannabee but was passed over, and now he's a just a grumpy old man.

As most have pointed out above, he knows NOTHING of being an Airline Pilot, and in his vast 4,000 hours in a light single, he doesn't know much about flying in general. He's certainly never flown large jet transports safely around the world, around the clock in all kinds of weather for 20,000 hours. He could probably take some of his own advice, do some research, and 'step it up' as a professional journalist. It's a sad day when Richard Quest knows more about Airline Pilots than this tool. And Richard's not even a Pilot!

Read his bio, he's a aircraft designer wannabee, pilot wannabee, software designer wannabe, (see a pattern?) who's settled for spewing his mindless rants on things he knows nothing about. If I see this article reprinted in next month's Flying Magazine, I'll unsubscribe the next day.

And Amen to Carl's post above.
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