To the Flying Magazine Writer on here...
#41
As with many things qualified people are not willing to spend the time and go in front of the media and answer really, really stupid questions. I shy away from the media usually and media-h0ares like Dr. Oz (yes he is a real doctor) are held in low regard by the medical community. Thus, the only people left are hacks.
We're saying similar things, but I'd leave it at "you're wrong." It is a subtle point I'm making, but an engineer who designed the A320 FBW system may know more about failure modes than a 10,000 hour captain might. So it may be reasonable to have a non-pilot on a show.
Similarly a physicist or biologist may know more about certain aspects of heart pathology than a surgeon. It is hubris to dismiss somebody because "they're not a pilot" or "they're not a doctor." He's wrong, flat out, no matter who he is.
His resume is actually interesting and somewhat impressive as others have pointed out. However, he did not do his research, so despite this "expertise," spouting out opinions that are not backed by data is ludicrous.
An old coot 30,000 hour captain who is senile could be just as misinformed. Appeal to "authority" can have its own problems. That's just the point I'm making, not too big a deal.
I think if a non-doctor were to write such personal things about you, as a doctor, and they were so wrong on so many levels, with no supporting evidence, you would probably say, "Hey! You aren't even a doctor! What do you know?"
Similarly a physicist or biologist may know more about certain aspects of heart pathology than a surgeon. It is hubris to dismiss somebody because "they're not a pilot" or "they're not a doctor." He's wrong, flat out, no matter who he is.
His resume is actually interesting and somewhat impressive as others have pointed out. However, he did not do his research, so despite this "expertise," spouting out opinions that are not backed by data is ludicrous.
An old coot 30,000 hour captain who is senile could be just as misinformed. Appeal to "authority" can have its own problems. That's just the point I'm making, not too big a deal.
#42
That article was off the mark on so many levels, it was very far from the truth. The author knows nothing about being an airline pilot.
If you look at how it's set up, it's pretty obvious he put it together haphazardly and without much thought.
We need to step it up professionally? How so?
As a whole, I can't think of a more professional group. If you can, who is?
If you look at how it's set up, it's pretty obvious he put it together haphazardly and without much thought.
We need to step it up professionally? How so?
As a whole, I can't think of a more professional group. If you can, who is?
Amen to brother Carl and Deacon Newk.
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Had he wanted to make the simple point that pilots are human too, he could have gone about it in a much different manner than he chose while coming to the exact same conclusion AND not project a bunch of his own mentality off onto others.
Here's the editor's note at the top of the piece...
Peter Garrison is a pilot and...writes for Flying Magazine.
Even MORE ACCURATE would have been the use of the first person, "I", making it clear these were HIS own thoughts and mentalities instead of projecting his crap off onto a whole profession.
For example, here's Mr. Expert on a professional pilot's mentality....
pilots do not consciously shoulder the burden of hundreds of lives or feel more responsible for a full airplane than for an empty one.
I do not consciously shoulder the burden of hundreds of lives or feel more responsible for a full airplane than for an empty one whenever I fly.
THIS is the mindset of a professional pilot...
As a professional pilot, I'm not JUST thinking about any pax that may be in the plane with me, but also the thousands/millions of people whose heads I'm flying over. I realize that if I crash, I could not only hurt/kill anyone in the plane with me, but also people on the ground, too. They matter just as much as anyone who might be in my aircraft. Additionally, I also look up to, greatly admire, and will always strive to follow the example set by true professional gentlemen like Capt. Sullinberger, who made it a point of pride, honor, and professionalism to be the LAST PERSON to leave his stricken aircraft after ensuring that all the passengers under his care and responsibility had safely exited it.
And such a person...like Peter Garrison...sure as hell isn't someone any responsible publication should be telling the public is an expert on the matter, much less publishing his dreck.
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To quote author Stephen King," the glory of a good tale is that it is fluid and limitless- it means individual things to the individual reader."
My frame of reference is that I've been published in AOPA, the USAF Air Mobility Forum, Professional Pilot, Twin and Turbine, Avweb, and Aerosafety World (also a couple times in non-aviation magazines - I'm a specialist on a certain breed of dog).
It's an opinion piece and it's doing exactly what it was designed to do - generate buzz and dialogue.
PG has done some great work and written some great pieces over the years and to paraphrase a statement I heard from an editor - never judge a person on their worst day. Judge the piece yes; but personal attacks are unfounded.
Full disclosure - I'm a 320 pilot at B6, also typed in the CL 65, Challenger 604, and G-IV.
I don't agree with the author's premise, but calling for the pitchforks and hot oil may be a bit over the top.
Also, the editor has culpability. The title of my work is changed nearly 90% of the time. It sometimes slants it in a direction I didn't intend it to go.
My frame of reference is that I've been published in AOPA, the USAF Air Mobility Forum, Professional Pilot, Twin and Turbine, Avweb, and Aerosafety World (also a couple times in non-aviation magazines - I'm a specialist on a certain breed of dog).
It's an opinion piece and it's doing exactly what it was designed to do - generate buzz and dialogue.
PG has done some great work and written some great pieces over the years and to paraphrase a statement I heard from an editor - never judge a person on their worst day. Judge the piece yes; but personal attacks are unfounded.
Full disclosure - I'm a 320 pilot at B6, also typed in the CL 65, Challenger 604, and G-IV.
I don't agree with the author's premise, but calling for the pitchforks and hot oil may be a bit over the top.
Also, the editor has culpability. The title of my work is changed nearly 90% of the time. It sometimes slants it in a direction I didn't intend it to go.
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#46
I agree with others who suspect the guy got turned down by one or more airlines.
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To quote author Stephen King," the glory of a good tale is that it is fluid and limitless- it means individual things to the individual reader."
My frame of reference is that I've been published in AOPA, the USAF Air Mobility Forum, Professional Pilot, Twin and Turbine, Avweb, and Aerosafety World (also a couple times in non-aviation magazines - I'm a specialist on a certain breed of dog).
It's an opinion piece and it's doing exactly what it was designed to do - generate buzz and dialogue.
PG has done some great work and written some great pieces over the years and to paraphrase a statement I heard from an editor - never judge a person on their worst day. Judge the piece yes; but personal attacks are unfounded.
Full disclosure - I'm a 320 pilot at B6, also typed in the CL 65, Challenger 604, and G-IV.
I don't agree with the author's premise, but calling for the pitchforks and hot oil may be a bit over the top.
Also, the editor has culpability. The title of my work is changed nearly 90% of the time. It sometimes slants it in a direction I didn't intend it to go.
My frame of reference is that I've been published in AOPA, the USAF Air Mobility Forum, Professional Pilot, Twin and Turbine, Avweb, and Aerosafety World (also a couple times in non-aviation magazines - I'm a specialist on a certain breed of dog).
It's an opinion piece and it's doing exactly what it was designed to do - generate buzz and dialogue.
PG has done some great work and written some great pieces over the years and to paraphrase a statement I heard from an editor - never judge a person on their worst day. Judge the piece yes; but personal attacks are unfounded.
Full disclosure - I'm a 320 pilot at B6, also typed in the CL 65, Challenger 604, and G-IV.
I don't agree with the author's premise, but calling for the pitchforks and hot oil may be a bit over the top.
Also, the editor has culpability. The title of my work is changed nearly 90% of the time. It sometimes slants it in a direction I didn't intend it to go.
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Speaking as a part time scribe myself I'm willing to cut PG a wee bit of slack, if you read over his oeuvre, his whole body of work from the 1970's till now you will find he is a dedicated and gifted aviator who designed and built from the ground up his own airplane then flew the same across both the Atlantic, and the Pacific in the pre GPS era. He has had a successful career as both a writer and an engineer, given flesh to his dreams, this last piece may not be a point of view I agree with but I'm not going to organize a lynch mob either.
I will organize it
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