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Old 05-29-2015, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Snarge View Post
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Have you considered the airspace is more dense on the east coast?

ATL is Delta mecca....

Don't fight it... the Deltoids are the Guard Police...
Get out much?

At 40W in the middle of the night there are beacons flashing everywhere. 123.45 is a craphole, but that is what it's for. 121.5? Not so much. Same thing over ELP or CNX, nose to tail at all altitudes each way, yet Guard seems to be much quieter with probably more mainline jets in a certain area.

Yet anywhere populated by cockpits inhabited by people that "sucked it up" for 500 hours after Daddy's pilot subsidy and then getting hired, it's amateur hour.

Funny, helpful replies to the third call on guard to ramp are Ok. The rest? Give everyone a break.
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Old 05-29-2015, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Snarge View Post
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Have you considered the airspace is more dense on the east coast?

ATL is Delta mecca....

Don't fight it... the Deltoids are the Guard Police...
And it happens all the time in the ORD area too. Which is NOT anywhere remotely Delta territory.

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Heard DL do the guard thing plenty of times in Europe, pretty easy to pick out when there are only a couple of American accents on the radio.
Don't remember if they did it on the other continents but based on their track history...
"Methinks the douches doth protest too much!" with apologies to William Shakespeare.
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Old 05-30-2015, 06:22 AM
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So much griping but let's be real, everyone here complaining has laughed at least one thing they have heard on guard. It's like saying you've never said anything racist or sexist or derogatory in your life. Sheshhh
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Old 05-30-2015, 06:29 AM
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Actually, hearing something truly funny on 21.5 would be a big surprise and very refreshing. Sadly, it's just douchebags trolling for other douchebags. They know who they are too.
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:29 AM
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Yes, I'll be the first here to admit I've transmitted multiple times (not on the same leg) on guard to ops once we've landed. The stupid one more button always get's you after a redeye. (Thankfully, the guard police have been just as tired and refrained from pulling the trigger)
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Snarge View Post
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Have you considered the airspace is more dense on the east coast?

ATL is Delta mecca....

Don't fight it... the Deltoids are the Guard Police...
I've always been fascinated by this. Why does everyone think Delta is the guard police? I've probably heard 621 million "yer on guard"s and not once have I heard anyone say their callsign. Are you guys hearing a lot of "This is Delta! Yerr on guuuaard!" Cause I'm not.
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:39 AM
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You know who I am just as sick of? The "bloooocked" d bags on normal radio. Maybe I should seek some revenge.

Next time I hear "ON GUARD" on121.5, I may go all in on BLOOOCKED on 121.5. And maybe, "you're on guard" to the d bag on regular radio who says bloooooked
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by thurberm View Post
Personal anecdote: I have twice in 27 years personally been working an actual call for assistance from others on guard and had to deal with the guard police clowns. It was maddening and potentially life-threatening.

The last time, I heard a call from a GA pilot who came up on guard with a fairly weak transmission stating that he'd just crashed and needed help. We responded and I was trying to get him to tell me where he was. He was clearly dazed and in shock, and it took several exchanges before I could figure it out. The other pilot was telling ATC what I was doing and that as soon as we could figure out where this guy was, we'd let them know so that they could notify emergency services in the right place. ATC could not hear his calls on guard.

We were at relatively low altitude and the distressed airman was on the ground, so it no doubt sounded like a one-sided conversation to anyone who was listening. In any case, listening to just one of my transmissions would have been all it would have taken for even the most casual observer to figure out that I was actually using guard for its intended purpose.

I kid you not, EVERY SINGLE TIME I released the mic button in this process, some jackwagon would come back with "Yer on guaaaaard." Made the process take twice a long, and had the guy been seriously hurt, might have delayed lifesaving help. I never bothered to respond to the hecklers, didn't wanna waste the time. But it was annoying the crap out of me all the same.

As it turned out, we did find him--fairly remote area, too--and tell ATC. Called them back later and they said he got found and was gonna be OK. His airplane had wound up upside down and though he was able to get himself out of it, he wasn't going to get rescued unless someone came to him.

So, bottom line, listen, pause, and think twice about it before you cave in to the desire to make yourself look superior...
I was an ear witness to a similar incident a couple years ago where a single-engine GA pilot had an engine failure and was attempting an off airport landing in unfamiliar territory. One airline Bubba was trying to help the GA pilot out and relay with ATC to get a position while about 4 or 5 other guard police morons chimed in over and over. Incredibly frustrating to listen to but I kept my mouth shut to avoid further congesting the frequency. However, I remember wishing I could silently reach through the microphone and punch each of them in the throat to shut them up long enough to get the pilot in distress some help.
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Old 06-26-2015, 12:12 AM
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Just flew over Europe (Frankfurt to Milan) and heard more nonsense and childish comments, laughter etc than I've ever heard in the US. Had to turn it off to listen to ATC.

Just sayin.
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Old 06-26-2015, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rube View Post
The guard mullahs are just as bad as the juveniles. They set each other off like antimatter.
Yes, I agree. I've heard "on guard" block an actual emergency also. The 'you're on guard' transmits are the highest priority of guard pollution that needs to be cleaned up.
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