Fast90

Insight as to a realistic schedule, how many days per month? How many days for a usual trip, if there is one? If not domiciled in Denver how is the commute to ORD? Rate your QOL. Thanks in advance.

Aero1900

For specifics on rsv rules, you can search as some have posted very good explanation of all rsv work rules.

12 days off on rsv. First year pay 37.50 & 75 hr guarantee, starts on first day of training.

I believe new hires can and will get Denver. There are Denver FOs upgrading, creating a need to back fill. I believe as a new hire you could get any of the 3 bases straight out of training or within the first vacancy bid after you complete training.

Qol on rsv is alright. You can bid for many different rsv windows and between short and long call.

Good luck. It's a nice, but underpaid place to work.

Fast90

Thank you for the info.

Southernpilot

What are realistic 2nd and 3rd year annual pay and upgrade times? I know I can look up the hourly rate but I'm curious if people are making more than the min.
Thank you!

Aero1900

You can fairly easily fly between 70 and 100 hours of credit per month once you are a line holder. On rsv you have to try harder, like putting yourself on the junior assign list on your days off. If I had to guess, I'd say our average pilots credit/month is in the mid 80s.

Looking out 3 years, we will be back to full pre bankruptcy rates, and then in negotiations for a new contract. With any luck, three years from now we'll be making a good bit more. Of course, negotiations could be dragged out for a long time and if the economy turns ugly, upgrade times might be lengthy again. Plan according.

With 100 airplanes on order, there is at least a reasonable chance for quick upgrades. As stated in the other frontier thread, a Fall 2013 new hire nearlyy got awarded captain this month.

navigatro

If you live in domicile, QOL will be decent.

If you commute to reserve it will be sucky.

Skylove0618

All the classes since mine (Dec 14), except the one that just graduated, were spread between ORD and DEN with most going to DEN. The last class was all DEN (according to a friend in this class). I don't have a crystal ball so I can't say what's going to happen as we start growing MCO.

As far as reserve and commutability, I have only sat 2 months on reserve, one at my own bidding. Otherwise, I've been awarded relief lines. I usually credit around 80 hours (for June I'm just short of 95). I have commuted between DC and both DEN and ORD. I haven't had any problems with either however, ORD is easier and much shorter. One thing to keep in mind, we fly a lot of late flights. This means you are more than likely going to get in after commute flights home (unless you get red eyes). We can aggressive bid when on reserve and drop rsv days.

Compared to my last airline, this place is WAY more flexible in scheduling and QOL is much better.

seekingblue

Please tell me you guys are working on a new contract. $37.50 for an Airbus makes Gojet look like a career airline.

Avroman

Yikes we are getting more than that first year at Endeavor to fly a CRJ 200.

F9 Driver

And for years all of the Legacy carriers paid in the $25/hr range for their first year - while you were on PROBATION. Second year you got a 100%+ raise, but they actually used the probationary period to evaluate whether they wanted to have you work there. Some even had you get a form filled out from every Capt. you flew with in that first year.

Supply and demand has changed things, but try not to forget how this industry got to where it is. $40 at year one in an RJ is part of the problem for those of us who want to fly decent schedules for good pay into retirement. I know they're old, but go on Amazon and pick up "Flying The Line 1&2". It's all perspective (and ball bearings these days)!