FAA Jumpseating in and out of DFW
08-24-2015, 08:17 AM
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DW,
I talked to the duty pilot and he agreed with everything you said and was filing a report himself. I emailed Alpa and filed a FCR. There is a pattern of abuse by them and they are stealing from the airlines, imho.
I talked to the duty pilot and he agreed with everything you said and was filing a report himself. I emailed Alpa and filed a FCR. There is a pattern of abuse by them and they are stealing from the airlines, imho.
Originally Posted by DogWhisperer
Actually had an issue with this several months ago...two FAA guys on the first two ATL-DFW FLIGHTS...third flight had delta dude reservation. I was standby for it until an FAA guys assumed it was "HIS". He did not identify himself to me nor did he have any ID on display. It devaluated into an ugly mess. CPO involved, Jumpseat committee notified, reports filed. Found out that they have been doing it ALOT. MY brother-in-law is big Whig with FAA in DC. He told me long time ago that unless they are on "official business" then they DO NOT have the right to bump you off the jump seat. Having worked for the FAA during furlough, I understand the mentality of quite a few of them... Band Camp with Authority. Some of them are GREAT....but unfortunately, many have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to pilots. As far as I'm concerned, which matters very little, they should be using their government credit cards and buying tickets. Nerd...I will have to give you the full scoop next time our paths cross...
08-24-2015, 08:27 AM
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They should make it so that they are only allowed to sit in the jump seat to do official line checks and those line checks need to be set up with their cmo office. Similar to the way ATC does their fam flights now. They abuse their power to use it as a "commute".
08-24-2015, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Then either don't commute or get a job with home basing. Simple.
08-24-2015, 09:14 AM
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How much discretion do the 121 guys have with a Fed riding the jumpseat? In other words, does the captain have any input if he/she feels that there might be a situation that appears the feds are just abusing the system and not buying a full fare ticket? Can the captain deny the jumpseat request?
just curious..
thanks
just curious..
thanks
08-24-2015, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Then either don't commute or get a job with home basing. Simple.
Yeah, I lived in 7 different bases. Not by choice either. Maybe you were given the golden card and can't comprehend why many of us commute. I can guarantee you that those who choose to commute make the choice because that's their only option. Having a Fed ride in the JS and bumping a commuting pilot just because the Fed needs to be somewhere is wrong. That's just as bad as a PS pilot giving up their seat to take the JS and bumping another pilot out of the JS. The JS is for observing and pilot "commuting". Nothing more.
08-24-2015, 09:20 AM
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That stinks if they are using the jumpseat for anything other than company business. It always gives me a chuckle to when guys that know nothing about flying a plane give us a checkride. They check your pilot medical and certificate and then give you a checkride. All so they can ride for free.
