Allegiant Air
04-18-2016, 06:39 AM
#2352
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A320
Posts: 1,347
The reason for the poor coverage is because the analysts didn't include turnover in their excel spreadsheet. There isn't a conspiracy. Anyone who has seen the inside of corporate knows that there isn't anyone steering the ship. It's just people running around trying to save a dollar here or there so they get a pat on the head from MG. That sums up all the issues throughout this company.
The post a few back about audits over the TDY base is a perfect example. They are trying to save a dollar on you to show MG and get ahead.
That is why we have such a "move the metal" culture in maintenance. Because it costs money to keep a spare.
It's why we have high turnover because every day they keep the dance going in negotiations to save money and look good to MG.
If you suggest spending money on the operation you get a nice email written to all employees by MG thanking you for your service and wishing you well on your next job.
Things are slowly changing for the better and we do have some good people trying very hard to make a change. Let's hope it works.
The post a few back about audits over the TDY base is a perfect example. They are trying to save a dollar on you to show MG and get ahead.
That is why we have such a "move the metal" culture in maintenance. Because it costs money to keep a spare.
It's why we have high turnover because every day they keep the dance going in negotiations to save money and look good to MG.
If you suggest spending money on the operation you get a nice email written to all employees by MG thanking you for your service and wishing you well on your next job.
Things are slowly changing for the better and we do have some good people trying very hard to make a change. Let's hope it works.
04-18-2016, 06:40 AM
#2353
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Posts: 2,137
Originally Posted by rokgpsman
Allegiant management has stated they don't mind the high turnover in pilots, it actually works in the company's favor to limit salary expenses. Due to the large number of pilot applicants from regional airlines and elsewhere they have been able to easily replace pilots in the past. Think about it - this scheme reduces the cost to the company for pilot salaries. After a few years of employment many pilots move on and are replaced by new pilots that accept the job at a lower salary than the pilot they replaced. Allegiant has never tried to be a career job for a pilot, they don't want a large number of 15-20 year pilots that would earn much more than the initial salary they accepted. If you have a never-ending supply of new pilots that will work for a lower salary why would you want to keep any of them around for years and have to pay them a higher salary? (other than experience, safety, professionalism, tutoring younger pilots, etc - all of which means very little to Allegiant upper management)
04-18-2016, 07:35 AM
#2354
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Joined APC: Mar 2009
Posts: 24
Originally Posted by FirstClass
None of which matters, you are acting like any of this even matters. Allegiant is simply a get rich quick scheme for a few insiders. Allegiant's demise can come from one a few angles, but its coming none-the-less.
That's really all I have to say.
04-18-2016, 08:35 AM
#2355
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Posts: 45
Originally Posted by 9easy
I've heard this many times. But I'm pretty convinced it's BS word of mouth, part of an overall negative sentiment.
Facts are the company tends to hire middle aged pilots, and the pay scales for CA's barely budge between years 3-12. 401K is the same. Most middle aged pilots have about the same medical costs, some older guys might skew upwards but that is offset by the lack of children. Vacation time is negligible with the PTO setup. On top of this, the training department is not setup for high turnover and growth like a regional is. There really is no point for mgmt to encourage turnover, or try to limit longevity, at least with the current work rules.
Facts are the company tends to hire middle aged pilots, and the pay scales for CA's barely budge between years 3-12. 401K is the same. Most middle aged pilots have about the same medical costs, some older guys might skew upwards but that is offset by the lack of children. Vacation time is negligible with the PTO setup. On top of this, the training department is not setup for high turnover and growth like a regional is. There really is no point for mgmt to encourage turnover, or try to limit longevity, at least with the current work rules.
Guys that are considering Allegiant as their prospective employment must take some of these nay sayers on here with some skepticism and possibly with a large grain of salt.
04-18-2016, 08:44 AM
#2356
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Posts: 2,137
Originally Posted by julietalpha
I'm not sure whether they wouldn't hire you or you just like to play pretend that you're in a big boy game. My respect level for you only gets lower by the post. (And because of where YOU choose to work, it was never that high to begin with... As a former Eagle, I'm sure you can figure out why...since you're so smart). Go back to your PSA thread.
That's really all I have to say.
That's really all I have to say.
04-18-2016, 10:33 AM
#2357
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Position: A320
Posts: 92
Video interview
Hello.
First post here. Just looking for info on the video interview at Allegiant for pilots? I've heard the flight attendants have been doing this for about a year but I can't find anything on pilots doing it. If anyone has any info on that I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
First post here. Just looking for info on the video interview at Allegiant for pilots? I've heard the flight attendants have been doing this for about a year but I can't find anything on pilots doing it. If anyone has any info on that I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
04-18-2016, 12:13 PM
#2358
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Posts: 549
Originally Posted by tyler durden
Agree 100%. They are canceling flights because they are unable to keep up with growth and attrition. First officers leaving right after ground school is a sunk cost that is unrecoverable. The fact that most of those leaving are first officers means that the company is not recovering their investment in training. The impact to the operation is an additional expense that is Impacting the bottom line
04-18-2016, 12:53 PM
#2359
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Posts: 173
First post here. Just looking for info on the video interview at Allegiant for pilots? I've heard the flight attendants have been doing this for about a year but I can't find anything on pilots doing it. If anyone has any info on that I'd appreciate it. Thank you.
You have 3 tries to record yourself. You can review your answers before sending them. Each answer is limited to 5 minutes.
You'll do just fine.Good luck!
04-18-2016, 12:59 PM
#2360
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Originally Posted by 9easy
The FO's leaving during or after ground school is probably less of a reflection on G4, and more likely due to them applying to a bunch of places at once... Maybe G4 gave them the first class date but then someone better offered them a class. Same thing has been happening at Southwest and Atlas lately.
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