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04-21-2016, 03:34 AM

#21

FirstClass

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Originally Posted by Grumble

Wait until you no longer have a union or labor laws to protect you... You'll be begging for that US job back, and if I'm on the other side of the table, not gonna happen.

Hey, if things don't pan out the way I think they should, I'll just say bye-bye to aviation. Plenty of other opportunity out there.

04-21-2016, 03:48 AM

#22

BeatNavy

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Originally Posted by Grumble

Where did those regional pilots get their flying from? Guppy killers anyone?

Who voted in RJs in their contract? Last I checked it was the mainline pilot contracts that allow RJ flying.

04-21-2016, 06:35 AM

#23

hockeypilot44

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Signing a petition probably won't do anything. Need to write to your senators.

04-21-2016, 06:38 AM

#24

FirstClass

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

Signing a petition probably won't do anything. Need to write to your senators.

You guys are trying to diffuse a bomb that's already gone off. But if it makes you feel better.....

04-21-2016, 06:41 AM

#25

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If you go to the ALPA link, it goes to your Senators, Congressman, Pres, and the DOT.

I always write my own blurb ahead of the ALPA form letter and say my piece, and that the following boilerplate expresses my sentiments as well.

Will it do any good? Who knows. But we know doing nothing certainly will not help.

It can take as little as 30 seconds. The repercussions could last a lifetime.

04-21-2016, 09:10 AM

#26

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http://www.wired.com/wp-content/uplo.../09/SSUS-4.jpg

For those of you who think this is "only" about competition; here's what you will be competing in.

04-21-2016, 09:45 AM

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PacNWflyer

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Originally Posted by FirstClass

Hey, if things don't pan out the way I think they should, I'll just say bye-bye to aviation. Plenty of other opportunity out there.

Yeah, that's the spirit. Do us all a favor and leave now, you are clearly too smart to be a pilot.

04-21-2016, 09:54 AM

#28

Rolf

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First class,
SWA doesn't codeshare with anyone. They are allowed some codeshare with Volaris, but they aren't using it. SWAPA is fighting this as well, so help me protect my career?

04-21-2016, 09:55 AM

#29

FirstClass

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Originally Posted by PacNWflyer

Yeah, that's the spirit. Do us all a favor and leave now, you are clearly too smart to be a pilot.

You can't see it now, but airlines are going to have to bend to me in the future, not the other way around. It's probably just the way you gen-x folks have been brought up and the type of environment you have been accustomed too working in, ie doing as you are told and 'fly it but grieve it later' stuff, but business as usual isn't going to apply to our generation as you old guys start leaving en-masse. If the airlines want to survive into the next 50 years, they are going to have to change the way they do things. This change has already started in Corporate America.

04-21-2016, 09:56 AM

#30

FirstClass

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Originally Posted by Rolf

First class,
SWA doesn't codeshare with anyone. They are allowed some codeshare with Volaris, but they aren't using it. SWAPA is fighting this as well.

Southwest wants it though. When they came to you for scope relief it wasn't for RJ's. And let's face facts shall we? Southwest pilots ARE going to give up scope aren't they$$$$$$$. Don't call it "fight this" your neck deep in allowing it to happen aren't you.

You are not coming out of any agreement with scope off the table, face it.