Airbus Pilots - ground speed mini question
05-24-2016, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Next question - performance churns out flaps 3 takeoff. CA incorrectly enters flaps 1 on FMS perf and I incorrectly set the flaps at 1. Company procedure requires comparing what's been entered to what's been set. But what if what's been entered is incorrect. I'm comparing two errors that happen to coincidentally correlate. So I guess two wrongs do make a perceived right? Will the aircraft catch the fact we have flaps 1 but require 3? Let's make it interesting and say this is Burbank with a flex takeoff.
05-24-2016, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Next question - performance churns out flaps 3 takeoff. CA incorrectly enters flaps 1 on FMS perf and I incorrectly set the flaps at 1. Company procedure requires comparing what's been entered to what's been set. But what if what's been entered is incorrect. I'm comparing two errors that happen to coincidentally correlate. So I guess two wrongs do make a perceived right? Will the aircraft catch the fact we have flaps 1 but require 3? Let's make it interesting and say this is Burbank with a flex takeoff.
05-24-2016, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Next question - performance churns out flaps 3 takeoff. CA incorrectly enters flaps 1 on FMS perf and I incorrectly set the flaps at 1. Company procedure requires comparing what's been entered to what's been set. But what if what's been entered is incorrect. I'm comparing two errors that happen to coincidentally correlate. So I guess two wrongs do make a perceived right? Will the aircraft catch the fact we have flaps 1 but require 3? Let's make it interesting and say this is Burbank with a flex takeoff.
05-24-2016, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hvydvr
Even as the FO, I'm going to take a quick look at the WDR to verify the line the CA selected, especially if he's manually entering stuff on the perf page. In your example, the big question in my mind is why didn't he take the second line on the uplink?
05-24-2016, 10:35 AM
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When I flew the 88 and 75 we had wind additives as high as or higher than any gs mini I've used. Except the 717 where they didn't want us adding an additive... and we had the landings to show why you need an additive.
05-24-2016, 10:57 AM
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On the flip side, if you're in KBUR and you don't get flaps 3, I would do some investigating. Hopefully S.A. kicks in and you catch it....which can be difficult after a day "sleep".
Then the next day you get flaps 2 for a 13R KJFK departure...
Then the next day you get flaps 2 for a 13R KJFK departure...
05-24-2016, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I get flaps 3 out of atlanta sometimes.
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