Pilot Shortage???
05-24-2016, 08:36 AM
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I think more will be needed... FedEx ... ups.. The corporate market is heating up.. At my regional we are in big trouble.. Costing the company a year salary for a new fo every time they cancel a flight..
We are canceling dozens of flights a day.. It's just embarrassing.. We are shrinking and the promise of the flow to aag, really isn't attracting pilots.
Terrible..
We are canceling dozens of flights a day.. It's just embarrassing.. We are shrinking and the promise of the flow to aag, really isn't attracting pilots.
Terrible..
05-24-2016, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
I think more will be needed... FedEx ... ups.. The corporate market is heating up.. At my regional we are in big trouble.. Costing the company a year salary for a new fo every time they cancel a flight..
We are canceling dozens of flights a day.. It's just embarrassing.. We are shrinking and the promise of the flow to aag, really isn't attracting pilots.
Terrible..
We are canceling dozens of flights a day.. It's just embarrassing.. We are shrinking and the promise of the flow to aag, really isn't attracting pilots.
Terrible..
05-24-2016, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
I think more will be needed... FedEx ... ups.. The corporate market is heating up.. At my regional we are in big trouble.. Costing the company a year salary for a new fo every time they cancel a flight..
We are canceling dozens of flights a day.. It's just embarrassing.. We are shrinking and the promise of the flow to aag, really isn't attracting pilots.
Terrible..
We are canceling dozens of flights a day.. It's just embarrassing.. We are shrinking and the promise of the flow to aag, really isn't attracting pilots.
Terrible..
AAG is going to have to stop trying to get blood from the stone when it comes to pay and qol at the WOs for them to be sustainable over the long term.
05-24-2016, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
If I'm not mistaken, there are 25,000 "regional" airline pilots currently flying in the US. Assuming 20% are lifers, that leaves 20,000 that could move up. Assume maybe 75% of them will get jobs at the majors, that's 15,000. Then add maybe 5000 military pilots?
So, there are maybe 20,000 pilots that could fill seats at the majors? If the big 3 hire 750/ year, and SWA hires 400/ year, that's 2650/ year. Add in the LCCs, which together make maybe 750/ year? So how about a grand total of 3500 pilots getting hired at the "majors" per year? And assuming there is roughly a current pool of 20,000 pilots, the majors shouldn't run out of pilots for at least 5 and a half years. Of course there are new pilots training all the time, and at least some new military pilots as well.
The way I see it, the majors should be able to hire without much trouble for 5 years. The regionals on the other hand are in big big trouble... which is good for all pilots, except the guys who want to be lifers at their current RJ gig. Anyone have a problem with my numbers?
So, there are maybe 20,000 pilots that could fill seats at the majors? If the big 3 hire 750/ year, and SWA hires 400/ year, that's 2650/ year. Add in the LCCs, which together make maybe 750/ year? So how about a grand total of 3500 pilots getting hired at the "majors" per year? And assuming there is roughly a current pool of 20,000 pilots, the majors shouldn't run out of pilots for at least 5 and a half years. Of course there are new pilots training all the time, and at least some new military pilots as well.
The way I see it, the majors should be able to hire without much trouble for 5 years. The regionals on the other hand are in big big trouble... which is good for all pilots, except the guys who want to be lifers at their current RJ gig. Anyone have a problem with my numbers?
05-24-2016, 09:05 AM
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You also have to add in the pilots with violations, DUIs, etc. While this does not completely disqualify them, it does make the road more difficult in the current environment. I do believe that people deserve a second chance!
05-24-2016, 09:13 AM
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It's ignorant how we almost never talk about the tens of thousands of 135, 91, and foreign guys who will vie for these jobs as well... do we all think they just don't exist, or aren't qualified?
Another ignorance... do we all think we're smarter than management? Do we think they don't know this? They may be immoral thieves, but I'd bet on them over us on an IQ test.
Old news to the powers that be; economic forces have, and will prevail.
The good jobs in any industry in america will always go to a select few, not the masses. You (average pilot) won't be punching your ticket to United, Delta, American, anytime soon.
Another ignorance... do we all think we're smarter than management? Do we think they don't know this? They may be immoral thieves, but I'd bet on them over us on an IQ test.
Old news to the powers that be; economic forces have, and will prevail.
The good jobs in any industry in america will always go to a select few, not the masses. You (average pilot) won't be punching your ticket to United, Delta, American, anytime soon.
05-24-2016, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by akemps
It's ignorant how we almost never talk about the tens of thousands of 135, 91, and foreign guys who will vie for these jobs as well... do we all think they just don't exist, or aren't qualified?
Another ignorance... do we all think we're smarter than management? Do we think they don't know this? They may be immoral thieves, but I'd bet on them over us on an IQ test.
Old news to the powers that be; economic forces have, and will prevail.
The good jobs in any industry in america will always go to a select few, not the masses. You (average pilot) won't be punching your ticket to United, Delta, American, anytime soon.
Another ignorance... do we all think we're smarter than management? Do we think they don't know this? They may be immoral thieves, but I'd bet on them over us on an IQ test.
Old news to the powers that be; economic forces have, and will prevail.
The good jobs in any industry in america will always go to a select few, not the masses. You (average pilot) won't be punching your ticket to United, Delta, American, anytime soon.
If airline management could find around 50000 of you, they'd be all set.
05-24-2016, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by grnclvrs
If airline management could find around 50000 of you, they'd be all set.
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