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Old 06-29-2016, 06:17 PM
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The parents have been doing their due diligence for some time now; based on their findings, they have turned the taps off. Meanwhile the supposed pilot shortage continues to be BS. Pay up and they will come...

When I got my private I was living at home with my folks. They did not want me to fly and didn't even know I was taking lessons, until the day I talked my dad into being my first passenger. I paid for all my flight training myself, working long hours at a crappy job. Those days are long gone.
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Old 06-29-2016, 07:34 PM
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So here's thing...the way to draw new FO's is to boost 1st year pay. If a union is faced with 2 contract options, one adds $10/hr to 1st yr FO pay and $0 to the top CA pay and the other adds $0 to 1st yr FO pay and $10/hr to the top CA pay, which do you think will pass? Also doesn't the union get 0% the first year?

I got hired in my mid 40s. I knew Id be on year one rates for one year. And year 12 rates for 9.

I b'ed about first year pay, but given your choice I'd have put the raise on year 12 even as a brand new hire.
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Old 06-29-2016, 08:07 PM
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There's an airplane capacity shortage! Oh no!
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:03 AM
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One thing that needs to be kept in mind is that many of the 20 somethings and younger are far less motivated by pay than older folks are. Recruiters for corporations across many industries are finding that recent college graduates are far more focused on quality of life issues above all else.

Trying to entice 20 somethings and millennials with high cost of entry, low pay, long days and 20 nights or more away from home staying at cheap hotels in places like Elmira, Akron and Topeka is just not going to cut it.
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:17 AM
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Wonder if the new Sully movie starring Tom Hanks will work as well as Top Gun did for the navy recruiters....
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I doubt it so highly.... being a fighter pilot is so much cooler than being an airline pilot.
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by skypine27 View Post
Wonder if the new Sully movie starring Tom Hanks will work as well as Top Gun did for the navy recruiters....
I can see it now...

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Old 06-30-2016, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude View Post
One thing that needs to be kept in mind is that many of the 20 somethings and younger are far less motivated by pay than older folks are. Recruiters for corporations across many industries are finding that recent college graduates are far more focused on quality of life issues above all else.
Throw some billiard tables, rock-climbing walls and free cafe's in the pilot lounges -- problem solved.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 View Post
I can see it now...



"I feel the need...The need for coffee and a USA Today!"





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Old 06-30-2016, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NEDude View Post
One thing that needs to be kept in mind is that many of the 20 somethings and younger are far less motivated by pay than older folks are. Recruiters for corporations across many industries are finding that recent college graduates are far more focused on quality of life issues above all else.

Trying to entice 20 somethings and millennials with high cost of entry, low pay, long days and 20 nights or more away from home staying at cheap hotels in places like Elmira, Akron and Topeka is just not going to cut it.
You get the china doll prize because you got it! Quality of life is as important as money or more in this case!!!!!
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