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Old 10-11-2016, 08:40 AM
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FLL based Captains, Relief Captains, and First Officers

Captains:

https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0

Captain
FAA ATP certificate or EASA ATPL
FAA or EASA Medical Class 1 (EASA Medical Class 1 required before commencing flight duty)
6,000 hours total time
2,500 PIC hours on any EFIS jet aircraft
1,000 hours on a wide body or narrow body aircraft in long haul operation



Relief Captains:

https://www.webcruiter.no/WcMain/Adv...nk_source_id=0

Relief Captain
FAA ATP certificate or EASA ATPL
FAA or EASA Medical Class 1 (EASA Medical Class 1 required before commencing flight duty)
5,000 hours total time
2,500 hours on any EFIS jet aircraft
1,500 PIC hours on any EFIS jet aircraft or 1,500 hours as FO on a wide body aircraft



First Officers:

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First Officer
FAA ATP certificate or EASA ATPL
FAA or EASA Medical Class 1 (EASA Medical Class 1 required before commencing flight duty)
1,500 hours total time
1,000 hours on any EFIS jet aircraft





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You must have the legal right to live and work in the United States.
Duty period starts and finishes at FLL.
Minimum of ten days off per calendar month.
28 days of annual leave per calendar year.
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Got to convert to European tickets and that is a *****.
Friend of my did it recently, 12 or 16 written tests and courses, then rent a simulator in Europe with a designee for the check ride.
(Maybe Norwegian Airlines will help out but my buddy did it all on his own so as to apply for this job, then he got turned down: Ex 747-400 Captain, well qualified)
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You better live in South Florida...because Jumpseating with a NAS ID badge ain't gonna be pretty
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Originally Posted by Csy Mon View Post
Got to convert to European tickets and that is a *****.
Friend of my did it recently, 12 or 16 written tests and courses, then rent a simulator in Europe with a designee for the check ride.
(Maybe Norwegian Airlines will help out but my buddy did it all on his own so as to apply for this job, then he got turned down: Ex 747-400 Captain, well qualified)
The European standard should have been applied here long ago. Not the joke of an ATP written test that people memorize answers to.
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The European standard should have been applied here long ago. Not the joke of an ATP written test that people memorize answers to.
Yeah right a million make work tests, morris code practicals and emphasizing poindexter book learning over actual experience and decision making.

No thanks.
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Yeah right a million make work tests, morris code practicals and emphasizing poindexter book learning over actual experience and decision making.

No thanks.
Sorta like a legacy standard that has turned down well qualified pilots over computerized testing and the shrink visit, so much for that actual experience and decision making. But I digress. The point was the theory/written examinations that culminate eventually to the full ATP licensing in Europe. Actual experience and decision making comes in the practical portion.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
The European standard should have been applied here long ago. Not the joke of an ATP written test that people memorize answers to.
Well, yes and no...
In the US the burden is the airline courses, not the licenses.
To pass an initial course on probabtion over here is a lot of work and
the pink slips are not far away.
I had 19 flying jobs around the world and seen guys bust left and right regardless of licenses held.
My toughest courses was Evergreen DC-8 F/O and Tower Air B-747 Captain.
AA B-727 F/E was no cake walk either..
Seen class mates bust out on all of the above, some with European tickets as the Evergreen course was for a FRA base. US pilots refused the commute and living expenses in FRA, hence Everegreen hired Euro guys with the blessings of the pilot group for the Air India Cargo contract.
One of my class mates was a German guy with a European DC-8 Type Rating, he busted the ground school written test.
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Sorta like a legacy standard that has turned down well qualified pilots over computerized testing and the shrink visit, so much for that actual experience and decision making. But I digress. The point was the theory/written examinations that culminate eventually to the full ATP licensing in Europe. Actual experience and decision making comes in the practical portion.
I know you're jaded and I remember why and I get that. But we're not going to adopt the inferior euro standards here. No thanks. There's zero pressure to do so either, thankfully. If europe is so amazing, go fly there. They will embrace you as their brother aviator I'm sure.

As for interviews, there is simply no way to hire 100% of every "well qualified" pilot, or even to subjectively define that in the first place. No other profession gets it right all the time either. And I don't think europe is any better in that regard either. Every airline on earth passes on pilots that would have made good ones there. There is no way to perfectly screen everyone and they don't do it there either.
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I know you're jaded and I remember why and I get that. But we're not going to adopt the inferior euro standards here. No thanks. There's zero pressure to do so either, thankfully. If europe is so amazing, go fly there. They will embrace you as their brother aviator I'm sure.

As for interviews, there is simply no way to hire 100% of every "well qualified" pilot, or even to subjectively define that in the first place. No other profession gets it right all the time either. And I don't think europe is any better in that regard either. Every airline on earth passes on pilots that would have made good ones there. There is no way to perfectly screen everyone and they don't do it there either.
Amen, well said.
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I know you're jaded and I remember why and I get that. But we're not going to adopt the inferior euro standards here. No thanks. There's zero pressure to do so either, thankfully. If europe is so amazing, go fly there. They will embrace you as their brother aviator I'm sure.

As for interviews, there is simply no way to hire 100% of every "well qualified" pilot, or even to subjectively define that in the first place. No other profession gets it right all the time either. And I don't think europe is any better in that regard either. Every airline on earth passes on pilots that would have made good ones there. There is no way to perfectly screen everyone and they don't do it there either.
The inferior standards of Europe
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