Originally Posted by HercDriver130

Here is a thought for all of us..... who is the real villian that we arent paid more..... the FLYING freaking public who buy airline tickets like they are at walmart...... I would bet that 75% of who to fly is based on price... the other on convenience.

Unlikely... probably... but all of these companies.... SKW...RAH...ASA...etc... have continually pushed the upper limit on aircraft size. I also believe a merger or two on the "regional, national....major" level is coming and you just might be surprised WHO is buying WHOM!!!

Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound

That's funny considering Delta would have the majority of control in this merger and Delta hates Wholly owned regionals. From where I sit NWA has placed Compass and Mesaba under a holding company to place them in a nice little package to spin off and get rid of.

Originally Posted by HercDriver130

First .....NEVER say never....

Second..... WHO says this flying belongs at mainline.... NOT mainline or they would be flying it.... get a grip this industry has been in constant change for 30 years and will be for the next 30..... HALF the problem is calling companies like RAH...SKW.... et al ..... REGIONAL...they are not regional and havent been for some time..... the industry has changed and you can not nor will they put the proverbial GENIE back in the bottle... does that make it right... who knows... what I do know is what we have today.... and before you flame me I was flying 40 seat turbo props over 13 years ago... when these companies WERE regional in nature...... they arent anymore because mainline and MAINLINE pilots did not want it.......

so MR XJT..... since you hope it puts us all out of a job... I will expect to see you handing in your resignation the day merger goes thru........

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed

I disagree. There will be a major consolidation of regionals, but the ones least affected by this merger will be the ones owned by majors because NWA likes to have controls over its regionals. NWA has already formed Mesaba Compass Holding corporation to operate Mesaba and Compass. The ones that will be most afected by this merger initially will be the ones not owned by NWA or DAL.

Originally Posted by seattlepilot

I respectfully disagree on this.. Owned regionals are assets that need to be converted to cash. I don't expect the two airlines to merge fully but be put under a single umbrella of a holding company. 25% limitation for foreign ownership is not enough to finance this merger. that is assuming that KLM/Air France will be willing to invest in the airline or DOJ and EU will permit this investment.
The only way you can raise the $$$$ is going to be dumping some owned regionals.
As far as red-tail having control, as long as they own the airplanes they can play their nasty game. They don't need to own the regionals.

Originally Posted by xkuzme1

I hope that it will put CHQ out of business along with all the other regonals.

ALL 70 seat jets should be flown at mainline airlines.

ALL 50 seat jets should be flown at mainline airlines.

Until 37, 50, 70, 76, 86, 90 seat jets are at main line airlines, nobody will have the careers that we all expect and most of us (except Go Jets) deserve.

I fly a 50 seat jet. I like my company, I like the airplane, but without a doubt I deserve more pay for what I do. We all do.

JO invented the "Regional Airline". How can any one of us be proud to follow in those footsteps.

If fly for ExpressJet. We have our problems just like any airline. I feel so strongly about this, that I commute 1000 miles out of my way to fly our "Branded" Mainline flights. That flying may succeed and it may not, but it feels good to know that I am not subcontracting anymore. I am not taking away a mainline seat. We are all a product of the way things are, but no one is trying to change it.

We have got to get out of this "I'm gonna get my 1000 PIC and move on" mentaility.

Rant over, but you wanted an opinion, well you may have got more than you asked for.

X

Originally Posted by Flyboy8784

Your right dude....you guys arent a "Regional"...im not sure if you classify as a "National" or a "Major", but the bottom line is that you guys get paid like the Regionals. Thats what bothers everybody else....you guys are doing much longer legs than us regionals are...but your doing it with more seats and less pay.

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed

Where are you getting your figures from? I doubt RAH pays more than JetBlue or USAirways.

E 190 belongs in the mainline and it is very unlikely that they will be flown by Regionals. Most majors have a scope clause that prevents anything bigger than E175s or CRJ900s to be flown by regionals.