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Old 07-30-2008, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok I have only read what I see on here as far as what is allowed regional jet wise in the new Delta contract.
Correct me if I am wrong but I read it to say that there will be 255 51-76 seat aircraft allowed and of those 255 120 of them can be 76 seat aircraft
If that is true there already is a problem.
Here is the current 76 seat aircraft either delivered or on order
Compass - 36
Mesaba - 36
Pinnacle - 16
Freedom - 14
Comair - 14
Republic - 15? (correct me if I am wrong)
SkyWest - 21
Total = 152

70 Seat aircraft
ASA - 37
Comair - 15
Skywest - 13
Shuttle America - 15?
Total - 80

Total 51-76 = 232

The 76 seat jet total will already be 32 planes over the mark if the limit is 120, is this correct????

I should also emphasize that I am not looking to gain any more regional flying, I would rather get hired at Delta, but I just noticed the number was higher than the number they established.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Freedom doesnt operate 76 seaters for DAL.

Also isnt Republic/CHQ/Shuttle swapping out 170s for 175's?
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Old 07-30-2008, 05:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Freedom doesnt operate 76 seaters for DAL.

Also isnt Republic/CHQ/Shuttle swapping out 170s for 175's?
I beg to differ
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opps forgot about that.

Is Skywest moving 70 seaters over from DAL to UAL?
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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opps forgot about that.

Is Skywest moving 70 seaters over from DAL to UAL?
I guess my main concern isnt 70 seat aircraft, according to the agreement, it allows 120 76 seat aircraft and right now there are 152
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok I have only read what I see on here as far as what is allowed regional jet wise in the new Delta contract.
Correct me if I am wrong but I read it to say that there will be 255 51-76 seat aircraft allowed and of those 255 120 of them can be 76 seat aircraft
If that is true there already is a problem.
Here is the current 76 seat aircraft either delivered or on order
Compass - 36
Mesaba - 36
Pinnacle - 16
Freedom - 14
Comair - 14
Republic - 15? (correct me if I am wrong)
SkyWest - 21
Total = 152

70 Seat aircraft
ASA - 37
Comair - 15
Skywest - 13
Shuttle America - 15?
Total - 80

Total 51-76 = 232

The 76 seat jet total will already be 32 planes over the mark if the limit is 120, is this correct????

I should also emphasize that I am not looking to gain any more regional flying, I would rather get hired at Delta, but I just noticed the number was higher than the number they established.
I think the 255 was the DAL number prior to the merger. I think you would have to add in the NW Scope number prior to the merger. As I understand it we will take theDAL pre-merger Scope number and add the NW pre-merger Scope number- essentially no change in RJ scope numbers.
I am not totally sure of the exact numbers but am pretty sure we are just adding the Scope numbers for both airlines prior to the merger.

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Old 07-30-2008, 07:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think the 255 was the DAL number prior to the merger. I think you would have to add in the NW Scope number prior to the merger. As I understand it we will take theDAL pre-merger Scope number and add the NW pre-merger Scope number- essentially no change in RJ scope numbers.
I am not totally sure of the exact numbers but am pretty sure we are just adding the Scope numbers for both airlines prior to the merger.

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I think Bastian was quoted as saying the new DAL will have nearly 800 RJs!?? What will we control nearly 3/4 of the RJ fleet in the U.S. for one airline? That number is way to high.
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But the majority of those will be 50 seaters that the majors want to get rid of. The 255 cap on the 70+ seaters is better than no cap. It should have been cut off at the current number on property but capping it is a start.
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Shuttle America has 16 170's dedicated to DAL, Those are scheduled to be swapped out on a 1 for 1 basis with 16 NEW 175's flown by Shuttle, Republic AIRLINES does not fly for DAL, only Airways at this point.

note: the 175's for DAL are configured 64 coach, 12 first class.
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But the majority of those will be 50 seaters that the majors want to get rid of. The 255 cap on the 70+ seaters is better than no cap. It should have been cut off at the current number on property but capping it is a start.
At least we, (CAL), do have one bright spot in our contract. Still held the line at 50 seats on any jet aircraft flown.
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