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Old 03-11-2009, 07:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I guess it depends on the aircraft. On the 738, the FO turns the beacon on/off.
On the Maddog, it's a copilot switch, as well.
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I have never seen a FO block out a aircraft in NYC with one exception in 3 years. Most crews were however blocking out the aircraft at main cabin door closure. The system however had to be tricked to keep the beacon from coming on. Two crews recently faced termination over doing that and it looks like those days are over.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I've never seen an F/O reach up and turn on the beacon, and I'm a NYC ER guy. That being said, the tendency is to turn the beacon on as soon as the door closes. Mgmt IS on the warpath about that, though.

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When I was NYC 738 that was the FO switch. The 757/767 ATL is always the Captain. Outside of the 737-200 I have nothing else to compare it to.
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I am still not sure how turning the beacon on "starts the clock". I don't care who does it, I just want to get paid.
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Reading all of this made me think of another conversation several of us were having on my last trip.

Any word on how the ACARS integration is coming? I'm sure this will be a long pole in the tent. One reason I ask is, I was commuting up on a Mesaba CRJ-900 and it had the old NWA ACARS masks even though several pages didn't work.

One of the integration items on the last memo delt with load info. I guess we will use the Delta system and it was said that decision was made outside flight ops. Interesting times..............
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It is the plan to go to the brake and the door.

We need to do a major overhaul of the acars anyway. I am sure that will be done then to. It really is not that big of a fix. It is already wired that way. We just threw the beacon in there too. Notice that you block in when the L1 or L2 door opens now. It just needs a slight computer change, and a cannon plug pulled. (sort of )
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Reading all of this made me think of another conversation several of us were having on my last trip.

Any word on how the ACARS integration is coming? I'm sure this will be a long pole in the tent. One reason I ask is, I was commuting up on a Mesaba CRJ-900 and it had the old NWA ACARS masks even though several pages didn't work.

One of the integration items on the last memo delt with load info. I guess we will use the Delta system and it was said that decision was made outside flight ops. Interesting times..............
Heyas Ferd,

Not to offend our fDAL counterparts, but I looked over their manuals, and while very sufficient, I was constantly reminded of the movie "300".

The NWA manuals, which are in full color and are a bit more, er, verbose, can be convienently downloaded and stashed away for "supplemental reading" should you change aircraft down the road.


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Heyas Ferd,

Not to offend our fDAL counterparts, but I looked over their manuals, and while very sufficient, I was constantly reminded of the movie "300".

The NWA manuals, which are in full color and are a bit more, er, verbose, can be convienently downloaded and stashed away for "supplemental reading" should you change aircraft down the road.


I'm not sayin' anything, I'm just sayin'....

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The Delta manuals used to be much better. They were full sized notebooks that went into much more detail and were written by Delta. A decision was made for liability reasons to go to the Boeing books. The manuals now used are essentially straight from Boeing.
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The Delta manuals used to be much better. They were full sized notebooks that went into much more detail and were written by Delta. A decision was made for liability reasons to go to the Boeing books. The manuals now used are essentially straight from Boeing.
I can't wait to see what Boeing's manual looks like for the A320/330
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I would suspect you will get the Airbus manuals. I heard they are even less then the Boeing manuals. Designed for 3rd world pilots.
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