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Old 04-26-2007, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld View Post
I guess how much you make in the USAFR varies widly depending on the aircraft and unit. I made well over 40k in the USAFR as an O-3/O-4 with no deployments while on probation. I also knew plenty of O-4s who made over 100k bumming.

100K bumming? Were they ARTs also? I know ARTs whose reservist pay pushes them over 100K but there is no way a part time guy can make 100K straight bumming. Maybe if he's TDY constantly, gets per diem while in town cause he lives out of town, gets hotels or whatever. Otherwise, not sure how this is possible. My numbers are based on a guy doing it part time, with a part time attitude, flying once or twice a week maybe and going to the UTAs.
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:50 AM
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Define Bumming.

In our world, we have guys "troughing", which means you're a part timer with no other job and so you try to get continuous orders. If you can get them more than 30 days at a bite, it's just like being on active duty without the bonus.

0-4 pay is just under 100k with full military benefits including all the tax benefits, including no state tax (if you do it right).

I think in a heavy unit, you'd be able to pull down a good amount of tax free per diem if you were a "trougher".
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Seat 1Engine View Post
If you would pass on ANY flying job to work in the CAOC....I don't know what to say next.

You fly fighters in the Air Force?

Something ain't right here. Say why are you getting out of the Air Force again?
OK, I think you have missed something here.

I think you assume that I already have a flying job lined up...which I don't (decision pending). In any case, I am separating from AD so that my family and I can put down some roots where we want to live and so I can spend more time at home. So if there is a reserve job out there that will allow me to do that and its not a flying job I will definitely consider that very carefully. The assumption there is that I get hired by a major.

I don't plan on giving up flying altogether; if I did, I wouldn't be here on this board.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SJF15E View Post
OK, I think you have missed something here.

I think you assume that I already have a flying job lined up...which I don't (decision pending). In any case, I am separating from AD so that my family and I can put down some roots where we want to live and so I can spend more time at home. So if there is a reserve job out there that will allow me to do that and its not a flying job I will definitely consider that very carefully. The assumption there is that I get hired by a major.

I don't plan on giving up flying altogether; if I did, I wouldn't be here on this board.
Go talk to the guys at the 916th at SJ. There is an E model guy in your unit going there soon. He is from Raleigh and went to NC State. Do you know who I am talking about? A friend of mine. Hell, it might be you. If so, you are a homo and you know who is writing this. If not, disregard the previous sentence! Hate to drop names on the board. Send me a private email and I'll pass along the info. Should be pretty easy to get hired. A lot of units are hiring right now.
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Old 04-30-2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant View Post
Hell, it might be you. If so, you are a homo and you know who is writing this. If not, disregard the previous sentence!
First thing I will say is that I am not a homo. OK, now that we got that out of the way, I will tell you I have in fact already interviewed with the 916th. They have a UTA this weekend and will be making their decision when they have all of their senior guys around during the UTA, so I should know by early next week.

The "friend" of which you spoke is also a friend of mine and helped me out a great deal with the process. Basically, I found out at the interview that they had fewer slots than I expected. So, then I started hunting everywhere I could for info on Guard/Reserve jobs, to include starting this thread, in preparation for the possibility of being turned down.
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Old 05-05-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld View Post
Don't be afraid to go to a heavy unit. If you get hired at an airline you can go to training and complete IOE and then take mil leave to train on your new mil aircraft. That way you make a good living the first year at the airline. After 1 year is up you can return to the airline on year 2 pay, but will still be on probation, which is no big deal if you show up to work on time.

You should be able to swing 4-5 days a month in the unit. If you get hired by SWA you'll probably not want to add to time away from home doing the USAFR. You should consider a non-flying IMA, ALO, or CAP job just to complete your 20 years. That way you avoid the AF BS, whisch is a lot less in the USAFR anyways.
What are non-flying IMA, ALO, or CAP jobs?
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:40 AM
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What are non-flying IMA, ALO, or CAP jobs?
IMA jobs are reserve jobs where you belong to an active duty unit and your boss is not a reservist. Quite a few of these jobs are going into a "Category E" status as of FY 08, which means you get points only toward retirement and NO PAY. There are still some that pay, but not all.

The ALO/CAP jobs are Academy Liason Officer or Civil Air Patrol liason officer jobs. These are usually points only jobs as well, but they have them everywhere so if you find one in your hometown you can earn your points without a lot of effort.
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SJF15E View Post
IMA jobs are reserve jobs where you belong to an active duty unit and your boss is not a reservist. Quite a few of these jobs are going into a "Category E" status as of FY 08, which means you get points only toward retirement and NO PAY. There are still some that pay, but not all.

The ALO/CAP jobs are Academy Liason Officer or Civil Air Patrol liason officer jobs. These are usually points only jobs as well, but they have them everywhere so if you find one in your hometown you can earn your points without a lot of effort.
Thanks......Looks like I have a lot of homework to do!
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:50 PM
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which means you get points only toward retirement and NO PAY.
Wow, that is harsh. Who would volunteer for a "job" like that???
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:04 PM
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Wow, that is harsh. Who would volunteer for a "job" like that???
I guess its the retirement at 60 thing.....pay and benefits forever....
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