Looking at AF Reserve
05-07-2007, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e
Wow, that is harsh. Who would volunteer for a "job" like that???
I recently spoke with a guy I flew Tweets with a few years back; he had gone into the Reserves as a T-37 IP and got hired by SWA. Once they started sending Tweets to the boneyard, he had a choice to transition to T-6s or go find another job. By this time he didn't need the money as much so he found a points only LO job in his hometown and moved his family there and will qualify for the retirment and the Tricare for he and his wife when he's 60.
If he works for SWA during the intervening years that looks to be a pretty sweet deal.
05-07-2007, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SJF15E
First thing I will say is that I am not a homo. 
OK, now that we got that out of the way, I will tell you I have in fact already interviewed with the 916th. They have a UTA this weekend and will be making their decision when they have all of their senior guys around during the UTA, so I should know by early next week.
The "friend" of which you spoke is also a friend of mine and helped me out a great deal with the process. Basically, I found out at the interview that they had fewer slots than I expected. So, then I started hunting everywhere I could for info on Guard/Reserve jobs, to include starting this thread, in preparation for the possibility of being turned down.
OK, now that we got that out of the way, I will tell you I have in fact already interviewed with the 916th. They have a UTA this weekend and will be making their decision when they have all of their senior guys around during the UTA, so I should know by early next week. The "friend" of which you spoke is also a friend of mine and helped me out a great deal with the process. Basically, I found out at the interview that they had fewer slots than I expected. So, then I started hunting everywhere I could for info on Guard/Reserve jobs, to include starting this thread, in preparation for the possibility of being turned down.
Yea, I was just messin' with you about the homo thing. Tell B he is a homo though. We went to OTS, UPT, and SOS together. Are you trying to stay in NC? Can't remember. If so, I know some guys at Charlotte. Also, the viper unit at Shaw might have some openings. A lot of units hiring. Hard to be picky on airframes though. I have thought about switching units and hercs or AETC seem to be the only descent options. Good luck. Let me know if I can help.
05-11-2007, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Caesar
reCALcitrant: JR, it's BD. Just signed up. How do I email you using this site?
05-12-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
Our navy buddies do this all the time. Not for me though. What a screw job. 
300 hours of work or less and plenty of beer money at 60 till you croak!
05-12-2007, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SaltyDog
You are not in a working billet, thus no pay, just points. On the flipside, it is a no stress, good holding tank for younger guys waiting for slots in pay billets or just finishing out 20 with no stress before retiring. Two options: Show in person like the CAP/ALO folks 2 days a month and shoot the breeze doing nothing, or if you don't like that, you can go IRR and do the 'coloring' books for 'free' and just stay home (on a layover) and collect a check at 60. Not bad if you have 10-14 years+ active and don't want to do any more mil. The investment is very attractive. The IRR coloring book folks spend maybe 20-30 hours a year doing the courses. Even at 10 years in the IRR, that works out to a a hell of a return on investment at 60. Not a screw job at all.
300 hours of work or less and plenty of beer money at 60 till you croak!
300 hours of work or less and plenty of beer money at 60 till you croak!
05-15-2007, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
Salty--Can you elaborate? I just left a flying position for the IRR. Are the "coloring books" PME? I have 10 years of active and 2 in the USAFR that I just assumed I would be kissing goodbye. Can I accrue points by doing Air Command and Staff College?
http://www.safaq.hq.af.mil/contracti...erve-guide.pdf
I was responding about the Navy system that allows the IRR folks to do correspondence courses at home or on the road (own time online) and accrue points and retirement. With 12 years under your belt, I would find out from the above link what USAFR IRR billet you can do for 8 more years to get a very worthwhile retirement check. CAP (Civil Air Patrol) is mostly the one I'm familiar with and what I would do if I was USAFR. Still requires time away from your house, but very manageable and remember, makes a BIG payoff for minimum input. (Here is the motivation and run your own numbers,see which is a smarter investment of your time. Compare the two cases
1. Finish out 8 more years in IRR as CAP ALO for example. 2 days monthly, no pay but points.
2. Work two extra days open time, stash the cash strictly for a 'seperate' retirement account for the next 8 years,
You will find that it is not even close. Military retirement wins by a landslide!!
Your 12 years in is the investment dollars leverage that you don't want to lose!
Overall, DOD says "Members of the Reserves with no inactive duty training or active duty for training obligations may perform voluntary unpaid drills with units of the Selected Reserve, enroll in correspondence courses, or perform other unpaid inactive duty training for the purpose of accumulating retirement points."
The AF says this from the above link
"INDIVIDUAL READY RESERVE (IRR) AND STANDBY INFORMATION
3.1. Participating IRR and Standby Reserve. These programs offer career
opportunities that lead to retirement point credit and other military benefits. Reservists in non-pay programs provide important backup for the national defense in a variety of professional and nonprofessional fields. Unless otherwise indicated, the Reserve Sections listed below are non-pay programs.
3.2. Participating IRR. Non-pay training programs unless otherwise indicated.
3.2.1. Reserve Sections (RS) MT and MX.
-RS MT - Ready Reinforcement Personnel Section (RRPS) managed by HQ ARPC/DPRFP
-RS MX - Air Reserve Squadrons (ARS)
-9001 ARS, (USAFA) Air Force Academy/Reserve Officer Training Corps
(AFA)/(ROTC) Liaison Officer Program managed by HQ USAFA/RRPA -9002 ARS Chaplains (HC) managed by HQ AFRC/HC -9004 ARS Civil Air Patrol Program (CAPRAP) managed by HQ CAP-USAF/IMR -9021 ARS Medical (SG) managed by HQ ARPC/SG -9025 ARS JAG (JA) managed by HQ ARPC/JA
3.2.1.1. If you are assigned to one of the above Reserve Sections you can earn points by performing Inactive Duty Training (IDT), Air Force Institute For Advanced Distributed Learning (AFIADL) formerly known as ECI courses, or a combination of both. You may perform Military Personnel Appropriation (MPA) mandays with the approval of your unit of assignment Program Manager. You must earn at least 35 points per R/R year. You may be required to have a training attachment and earn a minimum of 16 non-paid points through
IDT/AT (see Atch B).
Best of luck!
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