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I heard that story from a harrier guy once. If it remember it right, the pilot intended to blow the gear down but was talked out of it by the SOF or the XO or whatever it is that marines have. Don't remember why.

EvilGN

yeah that incident is not new, but what amazes me, is that there isn't some sort of high strength device that could withstand the blast and craddle a harrier with gear issues. Maybe I should invent it, and be a brazillionaire

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oinkflyer

A similiar story was told by one of my COs while at the training command. He said he was NORDO in addition to no gear. In fact, I don't think he had anything electrical still working. He said he put the Harrier down softly on it's belly and that it did very little damage. Mattress idea probably wasn't neccessary.

tjav8b

T-bird from the FRS. Class A. The engine severly fodded. Although it worked one time before, it is a stupid idea. Less damage just landing it on its belly.

USMCFLYR

In this quarter's safety mag there is a story where a V-22 Osprey had a problem with landing gear. At one point in the scenario they decided (or at least thought of) landing on a mattress too! Must be a Harrier thing

Hey tj - there was a question about Harrier pilots logging *powered-lift* time in the v-22 thread.
Would you take a look at it and give an answer?

USMCFLYR

js081285

Can someone explain how the Harrier and JSF vertically takeoff and land? I know you cant just go from vertical to horizontal flight, so does the jet transition to horiztonal thrust while you transition to slow flight, and vice versa for landing?

EvilGN

YouTube - Harrier Take-off Harrier demo

YouTube - F-35 JSF VERTICAL TAKEOFF jsf demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_4oD...eature=related

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USMCFLYR

They made a deal with the DEVIL!
I can't watch the links that EvilGN posted right now - but when watching the clip of the F-35 - pay particular attention the movement of the aft exhaust nozzel when transtioning from airplane mode to vertical takeoff (also watch the top of the aircraft for all the doors opening for the lift fan)
It is scary to think about all the parts required to sync perfectly for that to work!

USMCFLYR

tjav8b

In short, the thrust is vectored down with nozzles to hover and vectored aft for conventional flight. Vertical to conventional flight along with its rate it does so is all pilot actuated. F-35 is all computer operated with no pilot interface and uses different technology in a form of a fan.

js081285

Ahh thanks guys for the input.