Any of you reach retirement (active) eligibility thus far on your tour? And if so, are they granting relief for PCS ADSC in the event you request retirement prior to tour completion?
Thanks,
voodiloquist
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I came back under the RRORP which is a little different, but with the way things are and the new CSAF message, I would think if you want out now, regardless of ADSC, they'll let you. Just my guess. Good luck.
FYI..I just spoke with recall ops on the possibility of the 1 year extension for the "Limited Rated Recall" and you can apply when within 1 year DOS. However, she didn't see very optimistic considering the force shaping. FWIW.
Any of you reach retirement (active) eligibility thus far on your tour? And if so, are they granting relief for PCS ADSC in the event you request retirement prior to tour completion?
At least one recallee has been granted a one year reduction in his tour length. He ran it up thru his 2-star, and AFPC agreed and curtailed his DEROS and reset his DOS. All you can do is ask and make the case.
FYI..I just spoke with recall ops on the possibility of the 1 year extension...l ...she didn't see very optimistic considering the force shaping.
My contract ends Oct 2013... almost 3 years from now.
I'd be willing to bet that her crystal ball has no clue how Age 65, and the VSP/SERB will affect things by then.
What would I do if I were in Vegas? I'd put money down that says AFPC screws this up so bad they they beg folks to take the 1 year extension in 2013.
My contract ends Oct 2013... almost 3 years from now.
I'd be willing to bet that her crystal ball has no clue how Age 65, and the VSP/SERB will affect things by then.
What would I do if I were in Vegas? I'd put money down that says AFPC screws this up so bad they they beg folks to take the 1 year extension in 2013.
HuggyU2,
Amen to that! AFPC does not ever look at the outside influences on their pilot retention numbers. Assuming the economy stays on the recovery track and oil remains below $100/barrel, the combined effects of the upcoming mandatory Age 65 retirements, the new FAA flight time/duty time rule, an improving economy and 10 straight years of fighting two wars will have the AF scrambling to keep up with the mass exodus of pilots heading for a different lifestyle than what the AF has offered them over the last 10 years. I predict 35K/per year pilot bonus by 2013.
I talked to the lady at recall ops last week about submitting my one year extension letter, and she didn't sound that discouraging. She stated the first extension requests are just starting to flow in, and she expected the approval process to take about 2 months to complete. My hope is that they remain true to what they said which is that the one year extension is based on your commanders approval.
Huggy, you're totally right. I expect once again when I'm within a few months of my new retirement date, they'll realize how bad their manning is and offer more service. If I get the one year extension though, I think that will be it for me. I'm getting tired of the constant deployments that actually happen, and the others that are always dangling over my head.
At the rated manning conference last week, I got to talk to the recall extension decision makers. Given the pressures from the current budget cutting and AF overmanning, they have to have good reason to approve recall extensions. Having a critical skill and being assigned to a critical skill position and actually doing the intended work is the #1 deciding factor. Critical skills include (but are not limited to) fighters, Spec Ops, EWOs, and any Nuclear experience. There may be others, I don't know for sure.
So, fighter pilot in a fighter pilot billet, actually doing fighter-related work, you'll almost certainly be approved.
Fighter pilot in an Exec billet, or doing other non-fighter work (I know of some that are working as Resource Adviser, Director of Staff, and in the CAG) will likely not be approved. Get your CC to move you to a fighter billet and duties to help make your case.
Unfortunately, mobility guys aren't critical given that mobility is overmanned. Unless you can show that you have a special and unique skill set, the going-in position is disapproval.
This applies to all RRORP (retiree) recallee, and to any LPRP member who is not invoking Sanctuary.
This does not apply to those ARC LPRP members invoking Sanctuary under the provisions of AFI 36-2131. Those members will be granted Sanctuary to the 20-year point, but then probably not beyond.
HuggyU2,
Amen to that! AFPC does not ever look at the outside influences on their pilot retention numbers. Assuming the economy stays on the recovery track and oil remains below $100/barrel, the combined effects of the upcoming mandatory Age 65 retirements, the new FAA flight time/duty time rule, an improving economy and 10 straight years of fighting two wars will have the AF scrambling to keep up with the mass exodus of pilots heading for a different lifestyle than what the AF has offered them over the last 10 years. I predict 35K/per year pilot bonus by 2013.
Way to jinx it.
On another note, the VSP shenanigans of late have been interesting to watch.
When my recall is up, I will need 2 yrs and 10 months to get to 20. If, BIG IF, I somehow get a one year extension which puts me over 18yrs, do you think the AF will honor sanctuary? How do you "invoke" sanctuary? Is there paperwork involved or would a one year extension be a 'de facto' 3 year extension to 20?
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