ATP practical
04-18-2014, 06:20 PM
#243
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Position: FO
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Originally Posted by Sky1926
Hey dudes...anybody hear the rumor that after July 31st..these part 141 schools like ALLATPS will loose their syllabus/approval to do the ATP programs?
Four to six hours of multi-engine ATP training (more if you are way out of currency), maybe $1600-2000. Examiner fee, $400. Plane rental for checkride, varies. Good luck.
04-22-2014, 02:01 PM
#246
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: BE-350
Posts: 172
Originally Posted by AJ8443
Somebody looking in SoCal should consider Phx area, several mil friendly ones there. Arizona FTC got the job done. Larry Tiffin was an awesome examiner and full of interesting stories. Ask him about Mexico.
I guess i'll have to go there...or just bite the bullet and go to HPA. I can't find a ATP here in SOCAL that takes the GI Bill....even AllATP doesnt have a guy to do ATPs....ANYWHERE in CA!!! I think they should change their name to "SOMEATP"!
Thanks for the inputs!
04-22-2014, 08:31 PM
#248
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T45,
I think most of the short courses will not take Gi Bill. I sucked it up and paid the 2700 and got it done in 2.5 days. My thoughts are to avoid HPA unless you are obsessed with flying for SWA. If you are, they have great connections and you'll get your 73 type, but you work pretty hard for 13 days straight (taking 2 weeks leave) paying hotel and rental car that whole time. Plus you burn up several months of the Gi bill. You don't need HP for DAL, UAL, or AA. In fact if you get assigned 73's at one of those, you'll still have to do your type rating again under their instruction. Probably have an easier climb in seniority at one of those too.
I think most of the short courses will not take Gi Bill. I sucked it up and paid the 2700 and got it done in 2.5 days. My thoughts are to avoid HPA unless you are obsessed with flying for SWA. If you are, they have great connections and you'll get your 73 type, but you work pretty hard for 13 days straight (taking 2 weeks leave) paying hotel and rental car that whole time. Plus you burn up several months of the Gi bill. You don't need HP for DAL, UAL, or AA. In fact if you get assigned 73's at one of those, you'll still have to do your type rating again under their instruction. Probably have an easier climb in seniority at one of those too.
04-22-2014, 09:17 PM
#249
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: C-17
Posts: 13
Has anyone used Sawyer Aviation in Scottsdale? I've spent a few hours in a DA42 with the G1000 setup, so I'm thinking two flights to run through the ATP profile and then the practical. If I can knock it out elsewhere in 4 to 5 days for under $3,000 I'm willing to switch planes, I'm a steam gauge C-130 guy. Has anyone used Arizona FTC in the last month or so?
Thanks, Ben
Thanks, Ben
04-27-2014, 03:42 PM
#250
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Originally Posted by T6 Pilot
Here is another military option….have a couple of sources saying this guy is definitely BIG picture (pro-military):
Dr. Morris Ray
Downtown Aviation (Memphis, TN) - Olive Branch, Flight School, Flight Training, Aircraft, Service
Aircraft trained in = BE-76
Price quote:
1. Examiner fee - $300 (there is a female C-17 Guard (KMEM) who also is a check pilot out there -- her cost is $400. I'm going w/ Dr. Ray….
2. Ground - 3 hr @ $40/per = $120
3. Flying - $295/hr (total of 4.5 hours (2.5 "learning' the plane and a 2.0/hr check ride) -
Total cost quoted = ~$1750
** He did mention that if you fly with a buddy, the price drops down to about $1500 total because you are basically splitting the cost of the flight time (you both won't need a 2.5 hour adaptation flight).
** He also isn't big on weekend flying because of extra Mx costs, so expect to fly during the week. I did squeeze a Friday / Saturday deal with no issues.
Their scheduling system is what you would come to expect from a reputable business, and the reviews from folks who have gone there are what we expect from an ATP checkout -- FAIR.
They are approved for the GI Bill….
I'll reply back with the gouge once I complete the ticket…
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Higher Power is where a majority of guys are going. One of the check pilots, Charlie, is a good dude who I met over the holidays.
Dr. Morris Ray
Downtown Aviation (Memphis, TN) - Olive Branch, Flight School, Flight Training, Aircraft, Service
Aircraft trained in = BE-76
Price quote:
1. Examiner fee - $300 (there is a female C-17 Guard (KMEM) who also is a check pilot out there -- her cost is $400. I'm going w/ Dr. Ray….
2. Ground - 3 hr @ $40/per = $120
3. Flying - $295/hr (total of 4.5 hours (2.5 "learning' the plane and a 2.0/hr check ride) -
Total cost quoted = ~$1750
** He did mention that if you fly with a buddy, the price drops down to about $1500 total because you are basically splitting the cost of the flight time (you both won't need a 2.5 hour adaptation flight).
** He also isn't big on weekend flying because of extra Mx costs, so expect to fly during the week. I did squeeze a Friday / Saturday deal with no issues.
Their scheduling system is what you would come to expect from a reputable business, and the reviews from folks who have gone there are what we expect from an ATP checkout -- FAIR.
They are approved for the GI Bill….
I'll reply back with the gouge once I complete the ticket…
-BREAK-
Higher Power is where a majority of guys are going. One of the check pilots, Charlie, is a good dude who I met over the holidays.
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