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Old 02-19-2014, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew963500 View Post
I think breaking your military career by PCS is great, and a good way to show each step in your progression, but I also think that just listing your work history as USAF, for example and the timeframe of your service is acceptable. List your highlights under experience, such as Safety School, Chief of Stan Eval...

Going through my apps, I did my best to estimate landings. There is no absolute accurate assessment, unless you've been meticulous enough over your career to keep a personal log of all your military time.

Lastly, as long as you have a justified method of breaking down your time, and can explain it logically in an interview you should be good. Just know what that is when it comes up.
Excellent advice.

I broke mine down by PCS and included major jobs/schools which might look good.

Most hiring depts have current/former mil folks who know what to look for as far as "career progression". They want to hire the folks who performed well-- highlight that.

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Thread revival, I know... but it seems relevant. How do you guys log UPT time on pilot credentials? I don't want to call it SIC, obviously not PIC, but there is nowhere to put student time. Don't want to short myself almost 200 hours... Any ideas?
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Thread revival, I know... but it seems relevant. How do you guys log UPT time on pilot credentials? I don't want to call it SIC, obviously not PIC, but there is nowhere to put student time. Don't want to short myself almost 200 hours... Any ideas?
Log it as SIC, for SWA at least, per their People Department.
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Old 06-01-2015, 12:42 PM
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SIC includes military student time except if you were solo (Log PIC for that).
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Old 06-01-2015, 04:20 PM
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SIC includes military student time except if you were solo
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I'm not saying you are wrong,... but is there a reference for that?
That doesn't match anything I've ever heard.
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Old 06-01-2015, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TankerDriver View Post
SIC includes military student time except if you were solo (Log PIC for that).
In the civilian world SIC only exists if the airplane is typed for two pilots. Student time is TT and dual rec.
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Old 06-01-2015, 06:56 PM
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I don't make the rules. From AA's Pilot Credentials Q&A:

Q: What are the differences between PIC, SIC and Instructor Time when logged into the Flight Hours?

A: Here are the guidelines:

PIC (Pilot In Command) = Any time you signed for the plane as aircraft commander or solo including all instructor time.

SIC (Second In Command) = Any time you acted as second in command and/or didn't sign for the plane.
*This DOES include dual/student time.

Instructor = Only the time you logged as an instructor, regardless of the time being reported in PIC.

Instructor time is PIC time. It belongs in both columns.
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Originally Posted by TankerDriver View Post
I don't make the rules. From AA's Pilot Credentials Q&A:

Q: What are the differences between PIC, SIC and Instructor Time when logged into the Flight Hours?

A: Here are the guidelines:

PIC (Pilot In Command) = Any time you signed for the plane as aircraft commander or solo including all instructor time.

SIC (Second In Command) = Any time you acted as second in command and/or didn't sign for the plane.
*This DOES include dual/student time.

Instructor = Only the time you logged as an instructor, regardless of the time being reported in PIC.

Instructor time is PIC time. It belongs in both columns.
Nice job reading the fine print. AA can of course define it any way they like, even in direct contradiction to the norms. Maybe it's a reading comprehension test...better go check my app now.
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