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Old 09-22-2014, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by F4E Mx View Post
There is also the shrink interview with the airlines that the returning pilot will have to face: "Is this guy an adrenaline junkie?", and "Why would anyone with a wife and kids leave them to fly a s--- airplane for a s--- company in a s--- part of the world?"
It's called "the mission", I passed on two high buck Asia B757 Captain jobs holding out for the chance to fly ISR. I can also tell you that at least two of the guys doing sim checks at the Majors put the ISR guys at the top of the must hire lists. Why you might ask? Because their or their fellow Captains kids/nephews/nieces owe their young lives to the eyes in the sky.
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Old 09-22-2014, 09:24 PM
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Relax. Setting your ducks in a row for an Interview with a Legacy is a very reasonable thought to think.

I know multiple dudes flying ISR overseas that passed the shrink Interview, and I don't think that was even a thought that came up.

If you fly ISR overseas for sh:t pay, the shrink may not judge you...but I will hammer down upon my keyboard at you! It's a great short term job, but not at sub-active duty wages.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by F4E Mx View Post
"all the ISR operators have excellent safety records". Well one ISR operator has had a couple of really stupid fatal accidents outside of the Middle East, inside the US, actually, where it can't be covered up. The military has had its share of operational accidents in the Middle East even with superb support, so I would be interested in knowing what ISR operators have had what mishaps when, where, and why. I doubt if the info would be made available to aspiring applicants.
I've read your comments here, each smacking of ignorance, and clearly you know nothing about contractor operations which tend to have a significantly smaller footprint, a higher safety record, and a much lower cost than comparable military operations. You seem to have a hollywood idea of what goes on, with your comments about adrenaline, which is quite the opposite of typical flight operations that are long, often extremely uneventful and boring.

You think there's some stigma attached to one who would perform these services overseas, away from family? Do you think such a stigma is attached to the same sacrifice by a uniformed member of the military? Clearly, no.

I have never once, ever encountered anyone that suggested that my service overseas, including ISR operations, represented a cowboy way of flying or thinking, or that it was in some way inspired by a need for adrenaline. I've never had any employer that thought that way or suggested such a thing.

"CIA affiliated," huh?

Where do you get your material? Sounds like you've been reading cheap novels.
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:43 AM
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Lots of opportunities out there between SNC, L-3, Avenge, Dynamic, and several smaller companies. Africa is growing rapidly. It'll be interesting to see what impact the drawdown in AFG has and the threat ISIS now brings...
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Old 09-25-2014, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by F224 View Post
It's called "the mission", I passed on two high buck Asia B757 Captain jobs holding out for the chance to fly ISR. I can also tell you that at least two of the guys doing sim checks at the Majors put the ISR guys at the top of the must hire lists. Why you might ask? Because their or their fellow Captains kids/nephews/nieces owe their young lives to the eyes in the sky.
Couldn't agree more - avoiding severe weather at night, flying into remote airfields, refueling the airplane yourself provides plenty of great answers to TMAAT questions (stress, challenging flights, work ethic, etc.).
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