Motley Fool on A-10 Retention
#11
Valor in Flight
From ACC's Combat Edge magazine, Summer edition 2014. Two former students of mine.
They emptied both guns. Emphasis added by me.
(editted for length)
http://www.acc.af.mil/library/accsafety.asp
They emptied both guns. Emphasis added by me.
(editted for length)
http://www.acc.af.mil/library/accsafety.asp
Valor in Flight
BY LOU MICHEL
Capt. Ian Osterreicher was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross medal in a ceremony at Moody Air Force Base in Valdosta, Ga. ...(With) the 74th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron, last July he saved 60 soldiers by executing successful attacks on a large enemy force that was attempting to overrun a disabled route clearance patrol.
Leading his A-10C flight, Capt. Osterreicher, along with his wingman Capt. Ryan Bagby, flew multiple low-level passes and employed several types of weapons and munitions to defeat the enemy attack on the route clearance company.
To keep the soldiers safe, the flight had to fly extremely low to the ground and employ weapons, all while avoiding hitting their own countrymen. They made 15 passes over a two-hour period until the enemy retreated. Their efforts saved lives and enabled the wounded to be taken to hospitals for treatment.
....Dozens of enemy combatants poured in throughout the night and at dawn they pounced on the 60 stranded U.S. soldiers with a barrage of gunfire from a nearby tree line.
The first rounds of enemy fire critically wounded three soldiers and forced the others to take cover behind their vehicles. A desperate radio call for air support went out, and two Air Force A-10C Thunderbolt pilots flew to the rescue.
Upon arrival, Capt. Osterreicher quickly declared an emergency close air support event. He also found that there was not a Joint Terminal Attack Controller (JTAC) present...
It turned out to be far from easy....
Osterreicher was thrilled to receive the (DFC), but did not believe he had done anything exceptional.
“My son told us he was doing what he was trained to do, but the fact is he and another pilot saved the lives of 60 soldiers that day,” said Mickey Osterreicher, Ian’s father....
According to an Air Force account of the July 23 actions,....Osterreicher and his wingman realized the situation was worsening as the enemy forces moved in, apparently aware that if they positioned themselves close enough, the pilots might not risk shooting for fear of harming Americans.
But with the enemy now within grenade-lobbing distance of the convoy, the ground commander granted the pilots permission to engage in “danger-close” aerial combat.
Flying in at 75 feet above the enemy’s position, Capts Osterreicher and Bagby could clearly see the enemy and fired relentlessly during 15 gun runs over the course of two hours. Five rockets, three bombs (Mk-82), and 2,170 rounds of 30 millimeter were expended on the enemy. Many of the 30 millimeter strafing runs were within 50 meters of friendly positions.
The pilots’ aim was so precise that no U.S. soldiers were harmed by friendly fire and, at last, the enemy retreated while Capt. Osterreicher coordinated a helicopter evacuation for the wounded soldiers.
Afghan army soldiers later returned to the battle scene and found the bodies of 18 enemy combatants.
Capts Osterreicher and Bagby, after being debriefed, visited the hospital at Bagram Air Base and met with one of the wounded soldiers, who expressed his gratitude.
“Thank you for shooting those bad guys,” the soldier said.
...the JTAC located at (the) Forward Operating Base Airborne just east of the convoy location (said): I was relieved to hear the A-10s checking in to support. In a situation like this there is no better platform in the world.
I truly believe that had any other platform responded to my call we would have lost many soldiers that day.
...After the entire engagement was complete and the A-10s returned to base, the pilots immediately called me on the phone and said they were heading over to the hospital to see the wounded soldiers. As if they had not just done enough for everyone the fact that they went right over to the hospital to see these young men speaks volumes about the type of people both Capt. Ian Osterreicher and Capt. Ryan Bagby are.
Five months later after we finished our nine-month deployment, I joined up with the company’s soldiers at a military ball in Savannah, Georgia. I had young soldiers come up to me with their wives and shake my hand and say:
“It’s because of you, and the A-10 pilots that I got to come home to my wife ...”
There’s no better feeling in the world!
BY LOU MICHEL
Capt. Ian Osterreicher was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross medal in a ceremony at Moody Air Force Base in Valdosta, Ga. ...(With) the 74th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron, last July he saved 60 soldiers by executing successful attacks on a large enemy force that was attempting to overrun a disabled route clearance patrol.
Leading his A-10C flight, Capt. Osterreicher, along with his wingman Capt. Ryan Bagby, flew multiple low-level passes and employed several types of weapons and munitions to defeat the enemy attack on the route clearance company.
To keep the soldiers safe, the flight had to fly extremely low to the ground and employ weapons, all while avoiding hitting their own countrymen. They made 15 passes over a two-hour period until the enemy retreated. Their efforts saved lives and enabled the wounded to be taken to hospitals for treatment.
....Dozens of enemy combatants poured in throughout the night and at dawn they pounced on the 60 stranded U.S. soldiers with a barrage of gunfire from a nearby tree line.
The first rounds of enemy fire critically wounded three soldiers and forced the others to take cover behind their vehicles. A desperate radio call for air support went out, and two Air Force A-10C Thunderbolt pilots flew to the rescue.
Upon arrival, Capt. Osterreicher quickly declared an emergency close air support event. He also found that there was not a Joint Terminal Attack Controller (JTAC) present...
It turned out to be far from easy....
Osterreicher was thrilled to receive the (DFC), but did not believe he had done anything exceptional.
“My son told us he was doing what he was trained to do, but the fact is he and another pilot saved the lives of 60 soldiers that day,” said Mickey Osterreicher, Ian’s father....
According to an Air Force account of the July 23 actions,....Osterreicher and his wingman realized the situation was worsening as the enemy forces moved in, apparently aware that if they positioned themselves close enough, the pilots might not risk shooting for fear of harming Americans.
But with the enemy now within grenade-lobbing distance of the convoy, the ground commander granted the pilots permission to engage in “danger-close” aerial combat.
Flying in at 75 feet above the enemy’s position, Capts Osterreicher and Bagby could clearly see the enemy and fired relentlessly during 15 gun runs over the course of two hours. Five rockets, three bombs (Mk-82), and 2,170 rounds of 30 millimeter were expended on the enemy. Many of the 30 millimeter strafing runs were within 50 meters of friendly positions.
The pilots’ aim was so precise that no U.S. soldiers were harmed by friendly fire and, at last, the enemy retreated while Capt. Osterreicher coordinated a helicopter evacuation for the wounded soldiers.
Afghan army soldiers later returned to the battle scene and found the bodies of 18 enemy combatants.
Capts Osterreicher and Bagby, after being debriefed, visited the hospital at Bagram Air Base and met with one of the wounded soldiers, who expressed his gratitude.
“Thank you for shooting those bad guys,” the soldier said.
...the JTAC located at (the) Forward Operating Base Airborne just east of the convoy location (said): I was relieved to hear the A-10s checking in to support. In a situation like this there is no better platform in the world.
I truly believe that had any other platform responded to my call we would have lost many soldiers that day.
...After the entire engagement was complete and the A-10s returned to base, the pilots immediately called me on the phone and said they were heading over to the hospital to see the wounded soldiers. As if they had not just done enough for everyone the fact that they went right over to the hospital to see these young men speaks volumes about the type of people both Capt. Ian Osterreicher and Capt. Ryan Bagby are.
Five months later after we finished our nine-month deployment, I joined up with the company’s soldiers at a military ball in Savannah, Georgia. I had young soldiers come up to me with their wives and shake my hand and say:
“It’s because of you, and the A-10 pilots that I got to come home to my wife ...”
There’s no better feeling in the world!
#12
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,188
Badass.
Rest easy boys, the F-35 will take it from here.
Osterreicher and his wingman realized the situation was worsening as the enemy forces moved in, apparently aware that if they positioned themselves close enough, the pilots might not risk shooting for fear of harming Americans.
But with the enemy now within grenade-lobbing distance of the convoy, the ground commander granted the pilots permission to engage in “danger-close” aerial combat.
Flying in at 75 feet above the enemy’s position, Capts Osterreicher and Bagby could clearly see the enemy and fired relentlessly during 15 gun runs over the course of two hours. Five rockets, three bombs, and 2,170 rounds of 30 millimeter were expended on the enemy. Many of the 30 millimeter strafing runs were within 50 meters of friendly positions.
The pilots’ aim was so precise that no U.S. soldiers were harmed by
friendly fire and, at last, the enemy retreated while Capt. Osterreicher coordinated a helicopter evacuation for the wounded soldiers.
Afghan army soldiers later returned to the battle scene and found the bodies of 18 enemy combatants. Dozens more were believed to have survived and fled.
But with the enemy now within grenade-lobbing distance of the convoy, the ground commander granted the pilots permission to engage in “danger-close” aerial combat.
Flying in at 75 feet above the enemy’s position, Capts Osterreicher and Bagby could clearly see the enemy and fired relentlessly during 15 gun runs over the course of two hours. Five rockets, three bombs, and 2,170 rounds of 30 millimeter were expended on the enemy. Many of the 30 millimeter strafing runs were within 50 meters of friendly positions.
The pilots’ aim was so precise that no U.S. soldiers were harmed by
friendly fire and, at last, the enemy retreated while Capt. Osterreicher coordinated a helicopter evacuation for the wounded soldiers.
Afghan army soldiers later returned to the battle scene and found the bodies of 18 enemy combatants. Dozens more were believed to have survived and fled.
I immediately passed them the friendly location and informed them that they were taking fire 150 meters to their south and had them immediately set up for gun runs. The lead pilot requested to do a low “show of force” pass first because, in most cases, once the enemy heard and saw aircraft they would break contact. As lead performed his pass, his wingman reported seeing a lot of muzzle flashes in the tree line and we immediately began gun and rocket runs on the enemy force. When the convoy returned the guys had told me that the gun runs were so close to friendly position that trees as big as six inches around were snapping off and landing in their gun turrets.
#13
From ACC's Combat Edge magazine, Summer edition 2014. Two former students of mine.
They emptied both guns. Emphasis added by me.
(editted for length)
http://www.acc.af.mil/library/accsafety.asp
They emptied both guns. Emphasis added by me.
(editted for length)
http://www.acc.af.mil/library/accsafety.asp
Here's a video y'all may have seen, but it's by Lt Col Mike Drowley. Met him once at Nellis.
#14
OK...so twice now I've written a scathing indictment of AF leadership on this issue and then deleted it before posting. I write from the gut, but when I read it I tell myself: No, it can't really be that bad and as a fellow officer I can't make public statements demeaning the motives and wisdom of the leadership of an entire service branch. My heart tells me otherwise though.
#16
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: BE-350
Posts: 172
I am pretty sure that the USMC would have taken the A-10 in a heartbeat....about 15 years ago... Before it mortgaged everything for the V-22 and the F-35. Nothing excites a Marine aviator more than CAS!!
#17
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
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I always thought the A10 would have been suited to the USMC as well. But if I'm not mistaken, since it can't operate off a ship isn't that pretty much a showstopper?
#18
True - not expeditionary in the MAGTF sense of the word.
#19
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True - not expeditionary in the MAGTF sense of the word.[/QUOTE]
Yes and no, USMC deploys land based F/A-18Ds and EA-6Bs. While they have a tailhook and are obviously carrier capable, they deploy with no intent or currency in shipboard operations.
Which brings up a whole other issue with why USMC must have only have carrier capable fixed wing aviation, when they haven't assaulted amphibiously in 50+ years! The wars of the past 20 years have all been land based with large supply bases and airfields...(but anyway I digress....)
Yes and no, USMC deploys land based F/A-18Ds and EA-6Bs. While they have a tailhook and are obviously carrier capable, they deploy with no intent or currency in shipboard operations.
Which brings up a whole other issue with why USMC must have only have carrier capable fixed wing aviation, when they haven't assaulted amphibiously in 50+ years! The wars of the past 20 years have all been land based with large supply bases and airfields...(but anyway I digress....)
#20
Yes and no, USMC deploys land based F/A-18Ds and EA-6Bs. While they have a tailhook and are obviously carrier capable, they deploy with no intent or currency in shipboard operations.[/QUOTE]
Ah see....you have forgotten short field ops using field arresting systems like Bogue Field/AM-2 matting.
The Prowlers can operate off ship and have. The D's have also carrier qualified though it seems it was thought the deck cycles might be too long for them IIRC.
In any case T45 - expeditionary doesn't ONLY mean carrier capable in the MAGTFs eyes. Expeditionary also means the VSTOL platforms operating off sections of roadways or from small prepared pads - though when given the chance to move forward with the ground troops during OIF they stayed right at home at Al Jabber with the rest of us 'land based' crews and that sweet airfield!
Ah see....you have forgotten short field ops using field arresting systems like Bogue Field/AM-2 matting.
The Prowlers can operate off ship and have. The D's have also carrier qualified though it seems it was thought the deck cycles might be too long for them IIRC.
In any case T45 - expeditionary doesn't ONLY mean carrier capable in the MAGTFs eyes. Expeditionary also means the VSTOL platforms operating off sections of roadways or from small prepared pads - though when given the chance to move forward with the ground troops during OIF they stayed right at home at Al Jabber with the rest of us 'land based' crews and that sweet airfield!
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