Disqualified for Color Blindness
04-19-2015, 06:45 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I would not want to fly with you. Nor would I want to put my family on an airplane in which you were flying.
If you are this worked up about deficiencies in color perception, how do you feel about flying with pilots who are fatigued, distracted, hung over, suffering from a cold, suffering from a poor diet, etc? These are common problems, and arguably affect all phases of flight.
04-19-2015, 09:29 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by SteveA
I used to think color blindness was an unnecessary hurdle and not that big of a deal. I've had no problems, but watched several good buds deal with the very issues yall are discussing. FWIW, nearly all modern fighters have color displays and color blindness, especially red/green, can be a significant problem. I'm grossly oversimplifying, but you shoot the red guys on your display and don't shoot the green guys. I'm sorry for the guys that have to clear this hurdle, but I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be flying with someone who struggles with certain types of color blindness.
To get any intelligent advice or find FAA approved alternative tests is like finding friggin Sasquatch. Its so damn frustrating. Every doctor just whips out the Ishihara plates and boom, you're red green color blind....even though there are variations of this condition and you weren't screened further. Most doctors don't even adminster the test appropriately (from what standards I can find on my own.)
04-19-2015, 02:59 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Viper446
So your feeling is its okay for one of 3 crewmembers to be color blind and its the responsibility of the other 2 to make up for the other deficiency? So you have taken this accident and blamed it on two other people who should have been responsible, when someone like you, should have realized they couldn't a color blindness test?
I'm saying the color deficiency wasn't to blame.
04-19-2015, 03:07 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by block30
Let's keep in mind that true color blindness is extremely rare. Color deficiency is most common. Speaking for myself, I would have never known I was any different than perfectly "normal" if I hadn't struggled with the Ishihara plates. The world is extremely vibrant and colorful to me and it seems so for most who struggle with the Isbihara test. To me this is like giving someone the smallest line on an eye chart, and if they struggle, simply declare them legally blind.
To get any intelligent advice or find FAA approved alternative tests is like finding friggin Sasquatch. Its so damn frustrating. Every doctor just whips out the Ishihara plates and boom, you're red green color blind....even though there are variations of this condition and you weren't screened further. Most doctors don't even adminster the test appropriately (from what standards I can find on my own.)
To get any intelligent advice or find FAA approved alternative tests is like finding friggin Sasquatch. Its so damn frustrating. Every doctor just whips out the Ishihara plates and boom, you're red green color blind....even though there are variations of this condition and you weren't screened further. Most doctors don't even adminster the test appropriately (from what standards I can find on my own.)
Just like you, I never would have even known about my "problem" if I never took the Ishihara test. I never had any trouble in the real world of colors. Some color normals actually fail the Ishihara test and have BETTER color vision than the average normal. The majority of deficiencies are mild deutan which is green weakness. No major safety issue, they can see 75% of the colors as anyone else and you are talking millions of colors, not basic rainbow colors as are used in aviation, which I might add are 100% redundant. We aren't interior designers or fighter pilots (at least when flying airliners)
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