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08-29-2014, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2loud
T-38s with a HUD.....
In the breakfast area in base ops, we started talking to some students,and came to find out that, if solo and the HUD goes out, it was an immediate abort to a full stop.
Wow. Couldn't believe it.
The dreaded "HUD-out landing".
08-30-2014, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
About 8-10 years ago, we were at Laughlin with a 3-ship of T -38A models.
In the breakfast area in base ops, we started talking to some students,and came to find out that, if solo and the HUD goes out, it was an immediate abort to a full stop.
Wow. Couldn't believe it.
The dreaded "HUD-out landing".
In the breakfast area in base ops, we started talking to some students,and came to find out that, if solo and the HUD goes out, it was an immediate abort to a full stop.
Wow. Couldn't believe it.
The dreaded "HUD-out landing".
There sure were a lot of hand signals there that I wasn't familiar with
Didn't know the hand signals were so different between services too.
08-30-2014, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Are the newer remodeled T-38s with HUDs still equipped with other attitude reference instruments (besides some small peanut gyro down by the right knee for instance)?
There sure were a lot of hand signals there that I wasn't familiar with
Didn't know the hand signals were so different between services too.
There sure were a lot of hand signals there that I wasn't familiar with
Didn't know the hand signals were so different between services too.
08-30-2014, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PRS Guitars
Yes, they have a very nice glass MFD and the same old standby steam gauges as well. I've never heard anyone brief a solo student to abort a takeoff for loss of the HUD.
I didn't read Huggy's post to necessarily mean an aborted takeoff but rather any flight should be aborted and RTB'ed for a full stop (e.g. no continuing the solo formation flight).
Ah....the old comfortable steam gauge cockpit of the *older* trainers
(in this case the venerable TA-4J Syhawk so beloved by a couple of generations of Naval Aviators!)
ta4j-vt25-front-mod1 | A-4 Skyhawk Association
It's a new world out there (as the old timers said about us too coming up through the ranks)
I'd trade places with those young men and women in the video and do it all again.
08-30-2014, 06:14 AM
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Yes: I meant to convey what USMC stated.
I also remember the students telling us the HUD-out approach was a "special syllabus" item.
I have 2 flights in the -C model... one in front, one in back. I wasn't impressed at all with the glass, the HUD, and the avionics. There were a few nice features for the IFF mission, though.
I later heard the history of the acquisition of the new cockpit. Such a shame they went the way they did. In any event, I much prefer the -A model over the -C. But I'm quite biased.
I also remember the students telling us the HUD-out approach was a "special syllabus" item.
I have 2 flights in the -C model... one in front, one in back. I wasn't impressed at all with the glass, the HUD, and the avionics. There were a few nice features for the IFF mission, though.
I later heard the history of the acquisition of the new cockpit. Such a shame they went the way they did. In any event, I much prefer the -A model over the -C. But I'm quite biased.
08-30-2014, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I'd trade places with those young men and women in the video and do it all again.
I can see it now, 15 years into the future.....
Two O-5 selects sitting around after the monthly sexual assault death by powerpoint mandatory training session remembering the days of annual SAPR training, then when they were O-3s, it went to quarterly training
Remembering the days when the O'Club had more than a two drink limit on UPT assignment drop nights.
Ahhh.....the good old days.
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