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Old 10-13-2014, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheelsoff View Post
Yes, T-38s are really what I'm shooting for if I go the UPT route. A select few have been lucky enough to make it back within the last year but rumor has it that door of opportunity is unfortunately closing very fast for us AMC types, and likely will be shut (if it isn't already) by the time I'm eligible for my next assignment
I just left as a T-38 PIT IP and those rumors are false. There aren't enough 11F and 11B pilots to fill all the requirements. We just sent AETC a request to revise the syllabus to make it a bit friendlier for 11M pilots.

I stopped instructing a month ago and up to that point, not a single 11M had washed out; however, the guys with 11M experience and the 11B drivers spend a lot more time on CAP and bust a lot more rides. That is not a jab at people who fly those airplanes, but there is such a difference between what those guys do on a daily basis and what an 11F does it makes a huge difference in stick and rudder skills. I also believe there could be a credibility problem for 11Ms on the line which could take some time to overcome but certainly wouldn't be impossible (IMO one of our best PIT IPs was an B-1/U-2 pilot). As a PIT IP I did not experience this at the UPT level since I wasn't there, so that is just a guess not observation.
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Old 10-13-2014, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheelsoff View Post
Thanks hindsight, appreciate the advice. FWIW, yes, it would be going over to the Bone, and yes I flew T-38s in UPT. (The B-2 gig is quite appealing too, would also give me the chance to fly the T-38 again!)

But would airlines value T-6 instructor time that much? I'd assume they'd more prefer multi-engine jet time? Just want to be realistic and don't want to hose myself out of any future prospects...but hey, I also agree, life's short. Ah, decisions, decisions...
The B-2 community has hired lots of KC-10 guys over the past few years, so it's definitely possible for an AMC guy. The nuke BS sounds horrible, though.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:03 AM
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I just left as a T-38 PIT IP and those rumors are false. There aren't enough 11F and 11B pilots to fill all the requirements. We just sent AETC a request to revise the syllabus to make it a bit friendlier for 11M pilots.

I stopped instructing a month ago and up to that point, not a single 11M had washed out; however, the guys with 11M experience and the 11B drivers spend a lot more time on CAP and bust a lot more rides. That is not a jab at people who fly those airplanes, but there is such a difference between what those guys do on a daily basis and what an 11F does it makes a huge difference in stick and rudder skills. I also believe there could be a credibility problem for 11Ms on the line which could take some time to overcome but certainly wouldn't be impossible (IMO one of our best PIT IPs was an B-1/U-2 pilot). As a PIT IP I did not experience this at the UPT level since I wasn't there, so that is just a guess not observation.
Good to know! Our squadron just sent a guy through PIT about 6 months ago on his way to his second assignment back to fly the 38 again. He said it was the hardest thing he's ever done. I agree, it can be done, but like you said our day-to-day as an 11M is so different than an 11F it would definitely be a challenge...but well worth it in my opinion.
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