F-35 gun/software issues
01-01-2015, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
Great video, Grumble. I saw a similar one fom Australia.
01-01-2015, 06:51 PM
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Or have a vested interest as Initial Cadre in the USAF/USN/USMC.
They know if they play nice, their bread will be buttered.
Saw an article (can't remember where) two days ago. Might have been the piece in The Atlantic. A Senator or Congressman from Vermont was a harsh critic of the program.
But, when he found out they could be based in Burlington with the Guard, he changed to "We can't stop it; it's the future, so we might as well have it."
They know if they play nice, their bread will be buttered.
Saw an article (can't remember where) two days ago. Might have been the piece in The Atlantic. A Senator or Congressman from Vermont was a harsh critic of the program.
But, when he found out they could be based in Burlington with the Guard, he changed to "We can't stop it; it's the future, so we might as well have it."
01-02-2015, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by UAL T38 Phlyer
80 kts:
The only real reason for the gun was to justify it for CAS, to kill the Hawg.
Good luck....it will only carry 180 rounds.
Here is an excellent read. You'll have to wait 10 seconds for the ad to go away. Extremely well researched.
Lengthy, but I'd say spot-on when he talks hardware, and about 95% talking about the public, the military, and the void between.
The Tragedy of the American Military - The Atlantic
The only real reason for the gun was to justify it for CAS, to kill the Hawg.
Good luck....it will only carry 180 rounds.
Here is an excellent read. You'll have to wait 10 seconds for the ad to go away. Extremely well researched.
Lengthy, but I'd say spot-on when he talks hardware, and about 95% talking about the public, the military, and the void between.
The Tragedy of the American Military - The Atlantic
01-03-2015, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCVR_ajL_Eo
01-05-2015, 07:11 AM
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The 2015 NDAA keeps the A-10 alive for another year.
Inside the beltway, this is considered a slight loss for lockmart which had hoped to redirect hog funding to the F-35. The F-35 was funded according to schedule, but without any bonus funding which might have been acquired from the hog.
Inside the beltway, this is considered a slight loss for lockmart which had hoped to redirect hog funding to the F-35. The F-35 was funded according to schedule, but without any bonus funding which might have been acquired from the hog.
01-05-2015, 08:59 AM
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Everyone needs to take a step back and let the F-35 program develop. A majority of the info "leaked" about the program is just 1- Pure BS or 2-taken out of context. Yes the program is expensive and has suffered set backs along the way but that is pretty standard for new technology and especially something produced on such a massive scale.
Most of the information on the F-35 we would want to know as experienced aviators is talked about in rooms with music playing in the wall's. Not in magazine articles.
The problem with the F-35 is it should have been created in parallel with the F-22 (for timing). The strike fighter shortfall that the services are experiencing is a product of poor planning. No one imagined the utilization rates we experienced in the last 15 years.
For todays war I want A-10's and F-18's/16's supporting me for CAS. For tomorrow's war, no matter where it is or what level of sophistication my enemy has, I want a section of F-35's overhead with 12(or more) SDB-II's a piece and the ability to communicate with me without a word spoken on the net.
Before the crap starts slinging my way for defending the program let me say I do not work for LM, I am an F-18 pilot and have spent a year on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan as a FAC and have worked in aviation requirements as my staff tour. I was initially a hater but my eyes have been opened. If money is being diverted from everyone's "favorite" platform, we all have one, to support the F-35 than take a look at your services leadership. Not the aircraft. All the services have spent silly amounts of cash on complete BS programs through the years. Most of them not even part of a kill chain. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Most of the information on the F-35 we would want to know as experienced aviators is talked about in rooms with music playing in the wall's. Not in magazine articles.
The problem with the F-35 is it should have been created in parallel with the F-22 (for timing). The strike fighter shortfall that the services are experiencing is a product of poor planning. No one imagined the utilization rates we experienced in the last 15 years.
For todays war I want A-10's and F-18's/16's supporting me for CAS. For tomorrow's war, no matter where it is or what level of sophistication my enemy has, I want a section of F-35's overhead with 12(or more) SDB-II's a piece and the ability to communicate with me without a word spoken on the net.
Before the crap starts slinging my way for defending the program let me say I do not work for LM, I am an F-18 pilot and have spent a year on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan as a FAC and have worked in aviation requirements as my staff tour. I was initially a hater but my eyes have been opened. If money is being diverted from everyone's "favorite" platform, we all have one, to support the F-35 than take a look at your services leadership. Not the aircraft. All the services have spent silly amounts of cash on complete BS programs through the years. Most of them not even part of a kill chain. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
01-05-2015, 09:15 AM
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I will say that I saw a video on the F-35 and 'Rooster' Schimdle (now a 3-star) was featured in it and he had some good things to say about it. 'Rooster' is a former squadron CO of mine and certainly a figure head of old in the Marine Fighter/Attack community. Actually knowing this person, though he has long since joined the ranks of the military politicans in my opinion, I do respect him greatly as an officer and as an aviator. One of my biggest beefs with the program in general is the F-35B version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-YPy4gZdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-YPy4gZdY
01-05-2015, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I will say that I saw a video on the F-35 and 'Rooster' Schimdle (now a 3-star) was featured in it and he had some good things to say about it. 'Rooster' is a former squadron CO of mine and certainly a figure head of old in the Marine Fighter/Attack community. Actually knowing this person, though he has long since joined the ranks of the military politicans in my opinion, I do respect him greatly as an officer and as an aviator. One of my biggest beefs with the program in general is the F-35B version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-YPy4gZdY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ-YPy4gZdY
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