Too many deployments?
#21
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
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Congrats on the job! 2300ish hours total, of which 800 are regional. So 1500ish hours mil flying with a couple hundred of that from UPT gives you 1300ish hours in the Herc. And I believe you said 120 PIC. Just shows that airlines could care less about flight hours and more about being "well rounded". Good on you for checking as many boxes as you could.
#22
"Well rounded"
Congrats on the job! 2300ish hours total, of which 800 are regional. So 1500ish hours mil flying with a couple hundred of that from UPT gives you 1300ish hours in the Herc. And I believe you said 120 PIC. Just shows that airlines could care less about flight hours and more about being "well rounded". Good on you for checking as many boxes as you could.
Since you like to analyze resumes, post yours please. It will help understand how "well rounded" you are.
#23
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 59
Hmm. Well, I think the thread can get back to the task at hand now. If you don't believe me, then I'll tell you about the five guys in my unit who are Instructor Pilots who also flew for regionals before getting picked up by legacies in the last year. One of them spent five years at Skw and flew less hours than I did there. I can't speak for his hours but he was "well rounded" in the same ways I am. (Resume speaking of course)
Like Boxes said, maybe you ought to stop focusing on the perceived unfairness and worry about your own resume.
Like Boxes said, maybe you ought to stop focusing on the perceived unfairness and worry about your own resume.
#24
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 35
You covered some of the basics. But there is much, more to the resume. Stop worrying about other pilots and make yourself more competitive. Trust me, she didn't have the entitlement attitude you are displaying. She worked her way up in life to land at a major. She is not responding because she knows that she earned it. Companies will hire based on competitive resumes, not a couple hours repeated hundreds of times. Think whole person concept.
Since you like to analyze resumes, post yours please. It will help understand how "well rounded" you are.
Since you like to analyze resumes, post yours please. It will help understand how "well rounded" you are.
Unless I'm missing something, I can't see where in my post do I show a sense of worry or "entitled" attitude. You're a little too defensive... I was actually saying congrats... I'm pretty sure I wrote that. I "analyzed" her flight hours merely for the point of she's hardly got any. I think that's pretty clear. She must have had an impressive resume, which is why I said "good on you for checking as many boxes".
Good for her to get a job. Doesn't bother me one bit. In fact, I like to see low time pilots get hired, it tells me I don't need to worry about building hours, instead I need to work on the "whole person" concept. So take a freakin chill pill.
And I don't need for you to understand how "well rounded" I am, I'm not asking. It's pretty clear the airlines are looking for that "whole person".
#25
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
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Hmm. Well, I think the thread can get back to the task at hand now. If you don't believe me, then I'll tell you about the five guys in my unit who are Instructor Pilots who also flew for regionals before getting picked up by legacies in the last year. One of them spent five years at Skw and flew less hours than I did there. I can't speak for his hours but he was "well rounded" in the same ways I am. (Resume speaking of course)
Like Boxes said, maybe you ought to stop focusing on the perceived unfairness and worry about your own resume.
Like Boxes said, maybe you ought to stop focusing on the perceived unfairness and worry about your own resume.
That being said... I'm a mil IP with similar background as you (except more hours). I can check every box that you posted, I didn't do LOSA but I have a safety background. CP meet and greet, dozens of internal LORs. I'm extremely grateful for where I am today, and I don't feel like I'm owed anything. I couldn't care less that you got hired before me, truthfully. I know this is the beginning of the wave and my time will come when it's my time.
#26
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 59
Sarah, like I originally said... Congrats. I have no issues with you being hired. I'm not sure what you are referring to in not believing you. Somewhere my post has been misunderstood.
That being said... I'm a mil IP with similar background as you (except more hours). I can check every box that you posted, I didn't do LOSA but I have a safety background. CP meet and greet, dozens of internal LORs. I'm extremely grateful for where I am today, and I don't feel like I'm owed anything. I couldn't care less that you got hired before me, truthfully. I know this is the beginning of the wave and my time will come when it's my time.
That being said... I'm a mil IP with similar background as you (except more hours). I can check every box that you posted, I didn't do LOSA but I have a safety background. CP meet and greet, dozens of internal LORs. I'm extremely grateful for where I am today, and I don't feel like I'm owed anything. I couldn't care less that you got hired before me, truthfully. I know this is the beginning of the wave and my time will come when it's my time.
I finished my degree in the back of the Herk on multiple deployments and applied for pilot training. I worked hard and did more than just flight hours. I agree with your assessment that flight hours don't trump extra-curricular. That sucks to hear because of the limited amount of time we get to spend at home. (I'm married to a civilian plumber who works his butt off) Part of the extra stuff I did was to spend more time with him! We will all get hired, and seniority matters but is changing drastically in the next few years. I doubt most of us will spend a decade on reserve like in the past, but I admit to maybe being wrong. Who knows? My original post wasn't from MY vast knowledge but also my observation of many friends who have also gotten hired in the last few years who have spent plenty of time on mil leave. I wish good luck to everyone. Even if they're a little disillusioned from their time thus far in the industry. It's been hard, and I appreciate the sacrifices many have made. It's getting better.
#27
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: A-320
Posts: 1,122
I also worked with sarahswhere, both in the AF and at SkyWest. I did a deployment with her and was on her crew. She is a good pilot and a great person. She got to where she is at through hard work and dedication. Nothing has ever handed to her because she is a female. She checked a lot of different boxes and that's probably why she got the interview with low total time. I flew with her in combat, real combat, she handled it like a true professional. United is lucky to have her. Congrats Sarah.
#28
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 59
I also worked with sarahswhere, both in the AF and at SkyWest. I did a deployment with her and was on her crew. She is a good pilot and a great person. She got to where she is at through hard work and dedication. Nothing has ever handed to her because she is a female. She checked a lot of different boxes and that's probably why she got the interview with low total time. I flew with her in combat, real combat, she handled it like a true professional. United is lucky to have her. Congrats Sarah.
#29
Sarah, like I originally said... Congrats. I have no issues with you being hired. I'm not sure what you are referring to in not believing you. Somewhere my post has been misunderstood.
That being said... I'm a mil IP with similar background as you (except more hours). I can check every box that you posted, I didn't do LOSA but I have a safety background. CP meet and greet, dozens of internal LORs. I'm extremely grateful for where I am today, and I don't feel like I'm owed anything. I couldn't care less that you got hired before me, truthfully. I know this is the beginning of the wave and my time will come when it's my time.
That being said... I'm a mil IP with similar background as you (except more hours). I can check every box that you posted, I didn't do LOSA but I have a safety background. CP meet and greet, dozens of internal LORs. I'm extremely grateful for where I am today, and I don't feel like I'm owed anything. I couldn't care less that you got hired before me, truthfully. I know this is the beginning of the wave and my time will come when it's my time.
Sorry if I miss understood what you were saying! It simply appeared your remark, based on another trolls post, was inappropriate in the case of Sarah. Also sorry for not posting sooner, I had to leave the conversation to fly back from a deployment.
You will be hired! Just a question of when.
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